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re: Speeding Ticket Defense

Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:38 pm to
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Very few agencies still use radar


Radar is by far the most popular in southern Louisiana and the rest of the south. I've been using a radar/laser detector for a couple years now, and travel in and out of state every few weeks, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen laser. Not only do 90% of cops use radar, they also seem to just ride around with it on. Rarely do I not see a police car that I wasn't alerted to a half mile before I saw it. That really surprised me when I first started using my detector. It saved me from countless tickets (though I have been nailed by laser).
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:39 pm to
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Getting people for speeding is like shooting fish in a barrel since most speed limits are posted well below the flow of traffic anyway. It's basically the lowest hanging fruit of all traffic violations and generates a ton of revenue. In the name of safety of course. *cough*

Just because you believe a road should have a higher speed limit, doesn't make it so.

There are turn-ins and turn-outs (traffic concerns) along with the fact that roads tend to wear down faster with a higher limit. Some roads don't have the base to withstand 75 mph traffic.

Reminds me of a county commissioner friend. He said someone called his office bitching about hitting potholes at 50 mph on a blacktop county road.

The commissioner said, "You know the speed limit is 35, right?"

The road is torn to pieces because of the 1995 Maximas going balls to the wall down 'em.
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8171 posts
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:57 pm to
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Just because you believe a road should have a higher speed limit, doesn't make it so.


Studies have proven time and time again that the safest posted speed limit should be the 85th percentile speed of free-flowing traffic. Unfortunately, most limits are posted well below that. Most limits are posted at the 50th percentile or much lower. This means that more than half of motorists are speeding on average and thus breaking the law. The fact is that lower limits do not make roads safer but actually more dangerous since it creates more speed variances and also causes widespread disrespect of speed limits in general.

The fact is that most motorist drive at speeds that they are most comfortable with regardless of the posted speed limit. Hence the flow of traffic. Why the low limits in the face of all the evidence? Ask the multi-billion dollar industry of speeding ticket revenue and insurance premium hikes.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83105 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:06 am to
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I tell em I got to shite and show them my chrons have to shite bathroom card from the doc and they let me go.

It's my defense



Just tell them you're a judge
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:07 am to
It would probably depend on what frequency (band) each gun was operating on, but yes, the right interference can frick it up.


Eta: A good rule of thumb is that if you see them shooting a gun, it is laser. If they're sitting in their car with the windows up or driving, it's radar
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 12:11 am
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8171 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:23 am to
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It would probably depend on what frequency (band) each gun was operating on, but yes, the right interference can frick it up


On K-band a very huge maybe due to all the K-band pollution from blind-spot monitors and automatic cruise control systems. Even though K-band (24.050-24.250 GHz) is rather narrow compared to Ka-band (34-36 GHz), modern digital radar units are able to transmit and receive down to the 24.xxx or thousandth of a GHz (ok, MHz for the nerds here) in the K-band spectrum and even less thus negating the chance of interference. Most likely, if there was any interference the radar would display a ridiculous speed or none at all due to the Doppler shift being received being out of whack or out of scale with what was emitted.

If the radar unit was Ka-band. No chance of interference.



This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 1:29 am
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:29 am to
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The fact is that most motorist drive at speeds that they are most comfortable with regardless of the posted speed limit. Hence the flow of traffic. Why the low limits in the face of all the evidence?

Sigh. I guess you ignored the part about the major tax increases necessary to maintain roads to allow maximum speeds at which traffic flows, i.e. "balls to the wall," without consideration for turning traffic or pedestrians.

Let me guess... you're one of those SOBs who ride people's arse on the highway. GFY.
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8171 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:38 am to
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Let me guess... you're one of those SOBs who ride people's arse on the highway. GFY.


Nope, I actually hate that shite and hate those that do it to me. I also stay in the right lane except when passing. The left lane is the ticket lane anyway. While I may speed within reason on rural highways or interstates, I don't drive aggressively nor do I speed much around town or on city streets. Try again.

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Sigh. I guess you ignored the part about the major tax increases necessary to maintain roads to allow maximum speeds at which traffic flows, i.e. "balls to the wall," without consideration for turning traffic or pedestrians.


I guess you missed the point about people driving at speeds they are most comfortable with thus negating your crappy, broke-arse, under-posted speed limit.

Besides, your increased taxes to support increased road maintenance is dumb anyway. Passenger vehicles cause very little wear and tear to roads compared to 18-wheelers or tractor-trailers that can weigh in excess of 60k lbs when loaded. Other than stopping distances, this is one of the reasons that many states have separate lower limits for these types of trucks. Which, I may add, cause speed variances that compromise safety.

This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 1:32 am
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6706 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:38 am to
Your best option is to try and get it knocked down to a non moving violation and pay the fine. The fine is what they really care about anyway.
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8171 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:52 am to
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Does anyone know if there can be interference that would lead to a misread on a police officers radar gun if you have your own radar gun on in the car while driving?

The reason I ask is that I was sitting next to a baseball scout at a game and he kept getting "misreads" on his radar gun readings. When I asked him about it he said that sometimes other radar guns in the area will trigger a misread.

Does anyone know if there is truth to that?



If it was a Louisiana State Trooper or Texas DPS then a definite "NO" due them being primarily on the Ka-band 34.7 GHz (+/- 100 MHz) frequency. The Stalker Dual or tGOAT Stalker DSR 2x brand radar unit centered around 34.7 GHz is deadly in the hands of the right Trooper or Highway Patrolman (Texas DPS uses the DSR 2x pretty much exclusively). There are 2 other radar unit manufactures that have Ka-band guns. MPH-industries (33.8 GHz), famous for "POP" mode that can slip by most radar detectors and Kustom Signals (35.5 GHz). When it comes to parish, local, or city traffic patrol, they use a mix of the 3 major Ka-band manufacturers along with K-band guns and even the extremely rare ancient pre-1980s X-band gun depending on location. Radar guns used by baseball scouts are on the K-band frequency (24.050-24.250 GHz) since they don't require an FCC Part 90 license to operate them.

In other words, unless the officer was using a early/mid 90s K-band radar unit or earlier, your only chance is to prove that the calibration certificate was out of date. If you're trying to prove that your vehicle was a case of mistaking identity (which is your word against his), then good luck. You have a better chance at hoping he/she doesn't show up for the scheduled court date or getting it pleaded down to a non-moving violation with a fine and thus no insurance premium hike.

This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 3:50 am
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