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re: Speed Limit on Airline, BR to Gonzales. Am I Crazy?
Posted on 2/9/14 at 7:57 am to CaptainsWafer
Posted on 2/9/14 at 7:57 am to CaptainsWafer
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3. I often drive in the left lane less than 65, because I need to turn left "right up there."
So what you're saying, is that you drive in the left lane under the speed limit intentionally? I'm not sure what you're hinting at.
I think the quoting of "right up there" is throwing me off.
I drive whatever speed is reasonable for my situation at that moment. If I'm going to turn left shortly, I'm not going hurry and go 65 just to have to slow down to turn. (and as noted above, my work truck can't even get up to 65 in most Airline stretches north of Prairieville)
Surely, that's not that difficult to comprehend.
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 7:58 am to CaptainsWafer
The worst is that I have to take an actual left on airline. So when I am in the cut out, people on the opposite side stop their lane thinking I need to u-turn... But I need to cross the whole highway so the lane closer to me is at a complete stop and the far lane has people flying by at 70
Posted on 2/9/14 at 8:06 am to rondo
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The worst is that I have to take an actual left on airline. So when I am in the cut out, people on the opposite side stop their lane thinking I need to u-turn... But I need to cross the whole highway so the lane closer to me is at a complete stop and the far lane has people flying by at 70
In general, I don't think people realize the speed differential between zero and 65 mph. It's a helluva impact.
I bet there's a DOTD traffic engineer reading this. I wish you'd chime in, and tell us who's right.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 8:09 am to Grassy1
There is a st George station right off that stretch. They say they use their jaws more than anyone else.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 8:26 am to Sir Drinksalot
Yea, I've got a pic I could post showing one of those used on Airline, but not sure I want to...
It's all good till someone's kid or parent dies.
It's all good till someone's kid or parent dies.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 8:34 am to Grassy1
Another issue is at Germany Road, Hwy 621, and Black Bayou Rd. If you're turning left and the car opposite is too- you can't see from the angle whether the coast is clear to turn left or not if you have just a green light but no arrow. I've had more people stroke out behind me because I didn't close my eyes, hold my breath, and zoom left on a wing and a prayer-hoping that I don't get t boned.
Not going to do it with a wife, 2 year old, and another on the way. It's not worth my life to save someone 2 mins.
Not going to do it with a wife, 2 year old, and another on the way. It's not worth my life to save someone 2 mins.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 9:46 am to b-rab2
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i see no problem
And OP GET Your Pokey arse out of the left lane grandpa
Posted on 2/9/14 at 9:49 am to HeadSlash
You have to use the left lane to slow down and make a turn. This is a huge part of the problem. It's not an interstate (with in and off ramp transition space) but it has interstate speed limits.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 10:17 am to Sir Drinksalot
email response from LA DOTD:
Thank you for taking the time to contact DOTD. Speed limits are set by the 85th percentile according traffic policies used across the country. What this means is that when we study speed, we look at the speed range at which 85 percent of the drivers are traveling at in a safe manner along a portion of road.
The areas of the interstate that have speed limits below 65 mph are also sections that are under construction or have recently been under construction. At these times we will lower the speed limit for portions of road as a safety precaution for drivers and the construction site. Once construction is complete we will look again at these areas and how drivers are driving to determine the speed range for the upgraded portions of road. Additionally, there are portions of the interstate that have had the speed limit determined by legislation and not by a speed study.
In the past several years we have upgraded the portion of Airline Highway you mentioned removing redundant crossovers and building protected left turns throughout the stretch to help with the flow of traffic and increase safety. We work very closely with law enforcement to study wrecks along the roadway to determine if there is anything from an engineering standpoint that can help reduce wrecks. If there is some change, or adjustment that would affect the occurrence of these wrecks, we would implement it. If the speed limit was determined to be the cause of the wreck, then we would adjust that speed limit.
Feel free to contact DOTD if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Thank you for taking the time to contact DOTD. Speed limits are set by the 85th percentile according traffic policies used across the country. What this means is that when we study speed, we look at the speed range at which 85 percent of the drivers are traveling at in a safe manner along a portion of road.
The areas of the interstate that have speed limits below 65 mph are also sections that are under construction or have recently been under construction. At these times we will lower the speed limit for portions of road as a safety precaution for drivers and the construction site. Once construction is complete we will look again at these areas and how drivers are driving to determine the speed range for the upgraded portions of road. Additionally, there are portions of the interstate that have had the speed limit determined by legislation and not by a speed study.
In the past several years we have upgraded the portion of Airline Highway you mentioned removing redundant crossovers and building protected left turns throughout the stretch to help with the flow of traffic and increase safety. We work very closely with law enforcement to study wrecks along the roadway to determine if there is anything from an engineering standpoint that can help reduce wrecks. If there is some change, or adjustment that would affect the occurrence of these wrecks, we would implement it. If the speed limit was determined to be the cause of the wreck, then we would adjust that speed limit.
Feel free to contact DOTD if you have any additional questions or concerns.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:03 am to Grassy1
They removed a handful of them.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:03 am to rondo
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The worst is that I have to take an actual left on airline. So when I am in the cut out, people on the opposite side stop their lane thinking I need to u-turn... But I need to cross the whole highway so the lane closer to me is at a complete stop and the far lane has people flying by at 70
So, what you're saying is that you should go to the next crossover, make the u-turn that you're able to make, then make a right turn to get where you're going instead of sitting in the crossover and insisting on creating (yes, YOU create it) an unsafe left turn?
That sounds a whole fricking lot like a Michigan Left.
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:16 am to TigerstuckinMS
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That sounds a whole fricking lot like a Michigan Left.
You forgot about the part where you're supposed to cut through a grocery store/gas station parking lot at 30 mph to avoid having to stop and wait for other cars at that red light to make that right turn.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:30 am to Zantrix
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You forgot about the part where you're supposed to cut through a grocery store/gas station parking lot at 30 mph to avoid having to stop and wait for other cars at that red light to make that right turn.
Nah, frick those guys.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:43 am to Grassy1
And most don't drive 65, or by time they decide to get up to speed, they are already at the Barringer Foreman, Highland, or Old Perkins lights and have to stop.
Same for speed limit on Sherwood being 45 from I10. People consistently drive 35 because they are, AS IS TRADITION, not paying africkingtention to the world around them. All it takes is one dumbass who's not in gear in the head, and makes it a pain in the arse for everyone behind them, and the odds are really in favor of that happening more often than not.
Same for speed limit on Sherwood being 45 from I10. People consistently drive 35 because they are, AS IS TRADITION, not paying africkingtention to the world around them. All it takes is one dumbass who's not in gear in the head, and makes it a pain in the arse for everyone behind them, and the odds are really in favor of that happening more often than not.
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:00 pm to Mike da Tigah
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And most don't drive 65, or by time they decide to get up to speed, they are already at the Barringer Foreman, Highland, or Old Perkins lights and have to stop.
The gentleman answering emails at DOTD thinks that 85% are traveling at 65 mph (and safely, at that.)
"Thank you for taking the time to contact DOTD. Speed limits are set by the 85th percentile according traffic policies used across the country. What this means is that when we study speed, we look at the speed range at which 85 percent of the drivers are traveling at in a safe manner along a portion of road."
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:09 pm to Grassy1
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"Thank you for taking the time to contact DOTD. Speed limits are set by the 85th percentile according traffic policies used across the country. What this means is that when we study speed, we look at the speed range at which 85 percent of the drivers are traveling at in a safe manner along a portion of road."
Well, I drive it pretty regularly as I do the streets of BR all day for a living, and I would not say that 85 percent are driving 65, but below or bat shite crazy above at times. Safe? I don't feel unnerved, except with the person making a left turn at the last minute through the median or that person pulling out in front of those speeds and of course not hitting the gas to get up to speed with any sense of urgency in the least. That is where I would say it becomes a bit sketchy.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:17 pm to kingbob
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Airline Highway from the new Woman's Hospital to Gonzales is the only stretch of road in the world where driver's refuse to drive the speed limit by driving 10 miles BELOW the limit.
I mentioned this earlier. It's so dangerous to drive far below what everyone else is.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:18 pm to Grassy1
I agree with the OP. 65 Feels way too fast going through that area.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:27 pm to Hulkklogan
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I mentioned this earlier. It's so dangerous to drive far below what everyone else is.
We've all experienced it... The one car with two or three cars behind them driving 55 in a 65, and I suppose either trying to drive safe or not paying attention, and the end result is almost always cars behind them trying to cut and weave to get around them. The "safe driver" has now become the obstacle people have to avoid, and that's when things get more dangerous.
I've lived in cities where drivers all driving 70 down the interstate for example with maybe a car length in front being the norm feels comfortable, and traffic flows smoothly, and then when I think of that here, for many reasons it's a bit uncomfortable constantly worrying what stunt that guy to my left is going to pull because he looks like a really bad decision is mulling around in his head.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:31 pm to Mike da Tigah
I've seen plenty of people doing 45 in a 65 past Prairieville getting into Gonzo. It boggles my mind. I've seen them doing it with an open road, no traffic, I've seen it happen with traffic and they're holding up a lane 5-6 cars deep. I feel like I want to get where I'm going as fast as I can, legally. I get not being in a rush, but that isn't a good reason to go 10 mph below the speed limit
People need to re-learn rules of traffic and actually abide by them; things like going far below the speed limit and giving up your right of way for no good reason other than to 'be nice' create confusion and danger.
People need to re-learn rules of traffic and actually abide by them; things like going far below the speed limit and giving up your right of way for no good reason other than to 'be nice' create confusion and danger.
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 12:33 pm
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