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re: So Did Michael Brown Have His Hands Up Or Not?

Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:04 am to
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16902 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:04 am to
The guy was a thug, simple as that. He bucked at the cop because he didn't give a shite about the police. Thats how they are in that community, bunch of poor savages.

Should have he been shot, not sure. Was he a criminal, yes.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24640 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:07 am to
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The liberal media and most African Americans wants his hands to be up, so they are up. It's just one white officer doing his job, but because we have a race that wants to ignore the findings in this case, his hands will always be up.


ding ding ding. And it burns an impression into the communities mind that Brown wasnt a thug that died as a direct result of his stupidity, but more that he died doing what he'd probably never done before... surrendering.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:08 am to
What amazes me is the number of people who believe;

- Officer Wilson verbally harrassed two black teenagers as they were innocently walking through their neighborhood.
- He then tried to pull a 6'4" 292 pound teenager through the window of his vehicle.
- Unprovoked, he dismounted his vehicle and drew his service weapon.
- He then fired at a fleeing, unarmed black teenager.
- When the same individual surrendered himself, Officer Wilson executed him.

All in broad daylight in his own neighborhood.

Honestly, if all of this did happen and his neighbors did not immediately overpower and disarm Officer Wilson, then they are cowards.

But I have a feeling there is another story.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24640 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:11 am to
quote:

What amazes me is the number of people who believe;


lotta butthurt people
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12729 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:13 am to
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Should have he been shot, not sure. Was he a criminal, yes.


i'll expand on this....

should he have been shot, not sure
was death the correct penalty for his actions, probably not
do i have any problem with the fact that he was shot and died, ABSOLUTELY NOT

if you attack a police officer and die as a result, i have zero sympathy, and place no blame on the officer. brown was obviously a thug and a criminal and it sickens me to see people supporting him with these sit ins and riots.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18660 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:53 am to
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Name a major department



Most mid size departments have them in all their cars and we carry body mics on our person.

I LOVE having a camera in my car. It makes testifying in a criminal case so much easier. Just play the video to the defense attorney and he is asking for a deal.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31634 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:58 am to
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What amazes me is the number of people who believe; - Officer Wilson verbally harrassed two black teenagers as they were innocently walking through their neighborhood. - He then tried to pull a 6'4" 292 pound teenager through the window of his vehicle. - Unprovoked, he dismounted his vehicle and drew his service weapon. - He then fired at a fleeing, unarmed black teenager. - When the same individual surrendered himself, Officer Wilson executed him. All in broad daylight in his own neighborhood. Honestly, if all of this did happen and his neighbors did not immediately overpower and disarm Officer Wilson, then they are cowards. But I have a feeling there is another story.



Same here. Also, and I often say this, people believe outlandish things. Remember the ignorant Iraqis who thought that US marines' wrap around sunglasses gave x-Ray vision?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:00 am to
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16 witnesses said he had his hands up


16 media interviewed "witnesses" maybe. Some of them also said he was executed in the street on his knees or shot in the back.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 8:06 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9924 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:08 am to
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So Did Michael Brown Have His Hands Up Or Not?

I so sick of hearing about all this crap. This is the little bit of info I grabbed on to that made the most sense to me:
1. Guy robs a store.
2. Robber gets approached by cops.
3. Robber attacked cop.
4. Cop shoots robber.

PERIOD. End of story.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18660 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:19 am to
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Not how it was conducted in this case. It's obvious they did a halfassed job and put it on the GJ instead of pushing for an indictment. The purpose of the GJ is not to decide which witnesses are credible and which ones are not. It's further complicated by the fact that cops are rarely indicted for killing a civilian which is due to a number of factors on it's own.


The reason we are not indicted on most shootings is because most of them are pretty cut and dry. ALL police shootings are taken to a grand jury and officers are usually justified, just like in this case, in the shootings. This officer did his job the correct way and if we had a body camera or a in car camera then this case would have been a lot easier to justify. Of course the forensic evidence did that, but no one wanted to believe it.


We have a president who HATES the police and has sided wrongly against us on several occasions. He and his lap dog, Holder, want this case to be about race and they want it to be a bad shooting, but as the evidence has shown it was not.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:22 am to
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Besides the financial aspect of it, there are very real legal issues with turning over unedited electronic data from a law enforcement agency to a private third party. Not to mention the privacy issues. Cost, storage, legalities, privacy and the list goes on. 


Which is why I have a job. Cities, governments, hospitals, etc. Routinely use third parties to back up highly sensitive and regulated data.


quote:

am not in law enforcement but I do have some visibility on this issue through an industry partner and I can tell you that, despite what you are writing on the Internet, it is not as easy as you make it out to be. 




You were arguing earlier about the difficulties of housing their "large" amounts of data. Forgive me for not trusting your opinion after that.

And of course an all in one outsourcing company is going to cost money. No one said it was free. I offered am example of a company already providing the services today




Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:22 am to
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16 PEOPLE WHO CLAIMED THEY WERE WITNESSES said he had his hands up (including several that agreed with the rest of Darren Wilson's account)

fixedifforya
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:27 am to
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What amazes me is the number of people who believe


The narrative being told by the media and the "uncivil rights leaders"?

Really you're actually amazed? Why? Americans are lazy, dumb and are pussies. Why any American would support or agree with any narrative without doing their own homework on the subject matter is beyond me but carry on.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9924 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:29 am to
quote:

The guy was a thug, simple as that


Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19995 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

It's like when you catch someone in Winn Dixie with a roast in their purse THEN they beg to give it back but it's too late. I think that's kinda what happened here. He raised them as he was charging/falling.



What an odd analogy.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:35 am to


I'm thinking there's a confession there about the roast
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:39 am to
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The narrative being told by the media and the "uncivil rights leaders"?


CNN was showing a graphic of Brown being executed with his hands up even after the grand jury decision and details of the case were released.

The problem isn't the people who are fed false information on acts that never transpired....it's the irresponsibility of entities like CNN.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:47 am to
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The entrance wounds on his arms suggest his hands weren't up. Unless his hands were up with palms facing himself and the back of his hands facing out toward Wilson.



It has been pointed out within this thread
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66898 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:53 am to
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CNN was showing a graphic of Brown being executed with his hands up even after the grand jury decision and details of the case were released


CNN hired Dorian Johnson in their graphic design department.
Posted by winn-winn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
55 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:35 am to
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