re: Serial ... Is Adnan Syed Guilty?

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Bit like a previous poster said, just because some previously innocent people may have been convicted based on investigations by the same detectives, that has nothing to do with this case. Absolutely nothing.

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But when they are the result of lazy and/or poor investigations, and we see similarities in the Adnan investigations, it's relevant, at least from our standpoint in this thread (not as a jury).

My theory has always been off camera Jay admitted to being involved with disposing of the body. Detectives get him to agree to rat on Adnan and they would let him off easy. Turn on camera and go. Adnan could never say anything because proving Jay was involved was proving he was involved.

It is really simple and straight forward.

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DA's took the cell phone toward readings; t

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I don't understand what this means.

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they could have gotten access to incoming call phone numbers but didn't;

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How would this have helped prove Adnan's innocence?

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 interviews weren't given to a couple who Jen had talked to about a body; 

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Explain how this would have proved Adnan had nothing to do with the murder.

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 notes weren't taken in most interviews; etc.)

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I don't accept this as proof of anything that could absolve Adnan.

Why are you being a dick?

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I would argue that I t's pretty dick to talk down to others on the basis of your self-proclaimed and impeachable sense of logic.

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Would you like to see some sort of certificate or a diploma from a university? Maybe a transcript from LSU listing the classes I've taken?
As far as talking down to someone, maybe you could give me an example of ME talking down to someone on here. Does me talking about how my thought process refuses to allow me to accept the examples others have given as evidence of Adnan's innocence lead you to believe I have intentionally insulted other posters?

I think you have taken something too personal. Have I insulted your intelligence?

BTW: for anyone who was into Serial, I recommend "The Staircase." It's a series of DVDs you can rent from Netflix through the mail. It's another bizarre did he/didn't he story about a guy who's wife was found dead, covered in blood at the foot of the family's staircase. It's really good.

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I don't understand what this means.

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It means the cell phone "expert" drove around with the DA's and they took the notes. That negates the idea of an independent expert. Besides it being pseudoscience in the first place, an expert should complete their work independent.

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How would this have helped prove Adnan's innocence?

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I don't know what it would prove. But isn't it strange that a case primarily built on call logs, and they didn't get half the logs? Clearly the truth is irrelevant. That's either ineptitude or corruption and it's more surely evidence of a poor investigation.

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Explain how this would have proved Adnan had nothing to do with the murder.

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Again it highlights how poor the investigation was. The detectives knew of indivduals that may have had knowledge of Hae's death, prior to her being found, and they didn't even speak to them. That's inexcusable.

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I don't accept this as proof of anything that could absolve Adnan.

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Hours of interview and not a single note about the content of the interviews. Again it's an inexcusably poor investigation.

My point is that these same detectives have done this in the past, which has led to innocent indivduals being put to jail under corrupt circumstances (perjury, disregarding a confession from the true murderer). When you see a poor investigation, and a past history of this, then it calls into question the evidence--or lack thereof--in this case.

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When you see a poor investigation, and a past history of this, then it calls into question the evidence--or lack thereof--in this case.

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I understand that some people might consider this a poor investigation especially if they are on Adnan's side to start.

I'll listen to undisclosed, but information that was in Serial was good enough for me to suspect Adnan for murder.

You see, in logic, ad verecundiam begs that you support your claim of authority to support your arguments. Otherwise, you've committed a logical fallacy.

Didn't they teach that simple shite in your logic certificate program?

And my tampon is just fine, thank you very much.

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I'll listen to undisclosed, but information that was in Serial was good enough for me to suspect Adnan for murder.

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