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re: School Resource Officer "Body Slams" Student Sitting in Desk

Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:18 pm to
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And what do you do if the student still continues to refuse to move?

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Send her home( suspension) & ban this student from bringing her phone into class( without special permission). If the parents don't like that I suspended her & banned her from bringing it to class again they can send her to another school or home school her. Period. No need to physically make someone comply .


Once again, the student was physically refusing to move. They even refused when requested by an officer. How are you going to get her home to suspend her? And you can't just send a student to another school if the have a resides area (that's how it is here). And you can't force a parent to home school a student either. A lot of these kids with significant behavior issues have little to no support from home. You're lucky if you see a parent throughout the school year.

Some of you have a very, very utopian view of kids and the way the system works these days.




Are you retarded?

Is she gonna sit there after class/ school & not go home? Sit in the desk after school?

Handle this after class/ school.

1) She is suspended

2)She is not to come back to class with a cellphone or she shall be suspended again.


Let her parents discipline her. Let them home school her or whatever if they don't like her suspensions/ eventual expulsion for non compliance.


They are school administrators & not her 'pimps' who should physically force her to comply when she doesn't want to.

Send her butt home after school & don't allow her to bring a phone back to class( without permission) under threat of future suspension/ expulsion.


The administratiors & Cops did more to disrupt the school & class than the girl browsing on her phone







This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Sugar71britches doesn't care about that. That doesn't offend her SJW bone.


But I bet sugar has no problem blaming teachers for students who aren't able to learn because of these disruptive kids and wants their jobs and pensions.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:21 pm to
I bet you are right.

I spent a brief time in college at an inner city elementary school.

Had a kid tell me he was going to bring a knife and kill me because I wouldn't take his shite.

I whispered in his ear that I would gladly take his knife and spill his guts on the floor so he could see them before he died.

He ended up liking me and participated in the program. He just needed an arse kicking and boundaries.

I did learn that I had no desire to teach from that experience.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66670 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Sugar71britches doesn't care about that. That doesn't offend her SJW bone.



I'd really like to know what other options there are in the situation?

I see three:

1. Talk with the kid and try to get them to leave. This was done.

2. Do nothing and screw the rest of the kids in the class

3. Remove the kid from class. And the only way to actually do this is to grab them and physically force the issue.

The desk slam was a tad severe, but honestly in wrestling situations like this crap happens. Especially when the subject becomes combative.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:22 pm to
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Are you retarded?


Are you? You still have yet to provide a valid response to the situation as it was occurring in the classroom AT THAT TIME. Until you do so, you still have a pretty utopian notion of how parents handle their responsibilities these days or how students can act in a classroom.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66670 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Is she gonna sit there after class/ school & not go home? Sit in the desk after school?

Handle this after class/ school.

1) She is suspended

2)She is not to come back to class with a cellphone or she shall be suspended again.


Let her parents discipline her. Let them home school her or whatever if they don't like her suspensions/ eventual expulsion for non compliance.


Still doesn't answer the question with regards to what you do, in the here and now, to get those kids in the class back to their regularly scheduled learning. What do you do in the 30 minutes or whatever was left in class for that period.

Physically remove her

or

Let the class suffer because of this dumb arse girl.

Are there any other options to solve the current problem of classroom disruption?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:25 pm to
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2. Do nothing and screw the rest of the kids in the last


And lets talk about what kind of educational environment that fosters when kids can see that they can do absolutely anything they want without immediate repercussions.

I can tell you firsthand, it creates a very unsafe one.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45813 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:27 pm to
I wonder what everyone in this thread thinks about what this kid who was in this class had to say. Obviously a little teenaged SJW hoodrat apologist amirite



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:28 pm to
Aaron needs to concentrate on his spelling.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:29 pm to
I bet sugar71 went to an all white priveledged school.

I went to inner city majority-minority schools growing up. I know how disruptive students can be.

That is why I side with the officer.
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:29 pm to
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But I bet sugar has no problem blaming teachers for students who aren't able to learn because of these disruptive kids and wants their jobs and pensions.




Browsing the internet on a cellphone is far less disruptive than the actions of the administratiors & Cops here.


1)She cannot 'disrupt' class if she is at home /suspended.

2)She cannot disrupt class if she is barred from bringing the phone to class again under threat of further suspension/ expulsion.


Her parents can deal with her at home if she insists on browsing the internet & she can browse all day at home.


I guess that's how men are taught to make women comply is by manhandling them?





Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:29 pm to
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I wonder what everyone in this thread thinks about what this kid who was in this class had to say. Obviously a little teenaged SJW hoodrat apologist amirite


Look at his haircut. Guy looks like the textbook SJW douche.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:30 pm to
Reguardless? Jesus Christ son.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66670 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Browsing the internet on a cellphone is far less disruptive than the actions of the administratiors & Cops here.


1)She cannot 'disrupt' class if she is at home /suspended.

2)She cannot disrupt class if she is barred from bringing the phone to class again under threat of further suspension/ expulsion.


Her parents can deal with her at home if she insists on browsing the internet & she can browse all day at home.


I guess that's how men are taught to make women comply is by manhandling them?


oh good. more actions to take after she has left the room and yet still no solution on how to solve the problem of a disruptive student in the here and now.

What is your solution?

physically remove the kid? Let her just disrupt the class as she pleases? Other?

Answer the freaking question and quit providing solutions that apply to after the current problem of a disruptive kid has been eliminated.

She also can't disrupt the class if she actually left the damn room like she was asked to the first time.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Browsing the internet on a cellphone is far less disruptive than the actions of the administratiors & Cops here.


Do we know she was just browsing? And if it's not that big of a deal why did she refuse to leave when asked by multiple staff members and a police officer? The "minor" offense that resulted in her being asked to leave the classroom was made major by her utter defiance. That's on her at that point.

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1)She cannot 'disrupt' class if she is at home /suspended.


Correct. But you do know the suspension comes AFTER the disruption correct? What are you doing for the disruption that is occurring that will result in the suspension as it's happening? Not 8 hours later when school is over.

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2)She cannot disrupt class if she is barred from bringing the phone to class again under threat of further suspension/ expulsion.


See above.

quote:

Her parents can deal with her at home if she insists on browsing the internet & she can browse all day at home.


See above again. But good luck in a modern day school district getting her to be placed in home school by force or in an alternative school. Once again, utopian.

quote:

I guess that's how men are taught to make women comply is by manhandling them?


I guess that's how kids are taught, to disrupt all authority figures because they just feel like it.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Let her parents discipline her.


Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45813 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

majority-minority schools growing up. I know how disruptive students can be.


I had plenty of classes with sassy black girls who'd disrupt class. They usually got suspended and/or expelled. Can't recall many getting their desk flipped, dragged out by their hair, and flung across the room. This is the part when you call me a pussy SJW or something of that sort.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154738 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:36 pm to
Is getting drug by your hear painful?


I went to a 50/50 school and sassy black girls disrupting the class left when asked.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:36 pm to
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I had plenty of classes with sassy black girls who'd disrupt class. They usually got suspended and/or expelled.


As did I. 20 years ago.

Today the largest county in Kentucky doesn't allow expulsion. Even the kid who shot another kid in the classroom several months ago is sitting in an alternative school here. You can get a little creative and try to push for eSchool but a lot of parents refuse because that means they're sitting at home for them to deal with. And by law you can't force it. If they're a special education student, they cannot be suspended for more than 10 days a school year and you have to provide accompanying instruction for days over that which makes suspension beyond that essentially null and void.

ETA: Several districts across the country in the last 5 years have adopted "restorative teaching" where unless you shoot, stab, or try to kill someone the goal is to keep you in the classroom. At all costs.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Let the class suffer because of this dumb arse girl.



"Suffer" because she is browsing the net?


I bet most of the class never knew she was on the phone until the the Teacher pointed it out & called the administratiors & then Rambo( unemployed Rambo wanna be now).


Finish teaching your damn class & handle this afterwards with a suspension.

Its unfortunate that we feel that if girls or women don't 'comply' we must force them to comply.


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