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School bus should be required to have seatbelts

Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:11 am
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2760 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:11 am
This hit close to home 2 months ago when my daughters bus was in an accident. Then seeing news this morning in North Carolina where a bus accident killed some children including the bus driver.

I understand School Bus' are regulated differently in each state. However anyone in a POV are required to wear a seatbelt and it's by far saved more lives then taken them.

Wouldn't it make sense to require seatbelts be installed and used on all school buses? These transport our kids daily and I normally see unfortunate accidents involving them.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 6:12 am
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:13 am to
In theory, it's a good idea. But what happens if you have tons of younger children and a fire breaks out on board/in the engine? Rather than just shooing the kids out the back, the driver has to take the time to help all the young ones get out of their seatbelts.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:16 am to
That, and there's no way to monitor if each kid has their seatbelt on at all times, so if there was an accident and one kid undid their seatbelt some time in that ride before the accident...you know that the bus driver would be sued.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2760 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:31 am to
quote:

fire breaks out on board/in the engine


I haven't researched but IMO it's more likely to be in a accident then to have the bus catch on fire.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 6:31 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27069 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:35 am to
I don't think seat belts do all that much when a train broadsides a bus. Plus buses are designed to be in accidents and protect the occupants without seat belts.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:35 am to
Absolutely agree! Should have been mandated years ago.

Not having them because there maybe a fire or asteroid strike is dumb. You can say the same thing about the family mini-van.

Want to monitor the kids? Include a sensor on each belt.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 6:58 am to
quote:



Want to monitor the kids? Include a sensor on each belt.


No way in hell is that feasible.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:03 am to
It's feasible but there are ways around the sensor if the kid doesn't want to wear the belt, just throwing out an idea.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:05 am to
quote:

That, and there's no way to monitor if each kid has their seatbelt on at all times, so if there was an accident and one kid undid their seatbelt some time in that ride before the accident...you know that the bus driver would be sued.


You'd likely sue the bus company. That bus driver doesn't make enough money to make it worth your while to sue.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:11 am to
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You'd likely sue the bus company. That bus driver doesn't make enough money to make it worth your while to sue.



How about we return this country to the way it used to think and be and say you are responsible for teaching your kid how to put on and take off a seatbelt so that they can ride to school safely?

Same kind of knowledge they should know in school like wipe their butt, put on shoes, use bookbag properly, or how to wait in line.

And if something happens where they don't put on the seatbelt, after a bus driver's command when they step on the bus, then it's solely the passenger's fault...and blame goes to them and the parents.

But even then, there might be that day where it's just everything lines up perfectly and seatbelts are not the right thing to protect people at that time. It's cold and kids are wearing big jackets and it's really hard to either get the seatbelts on or off, and those few seconds costs them their lives.

It's just safer and easier if a bus doesn't have seatbelts. The best way to do all of this is have strict guidelines for bus drivers on road and traffic rules such as stopping, speed, and routes.

It's not that hard.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 7:14 am
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:17 am to
I'd be curious to know how many children's deaths were attributed to lack of seat belts on a school bus last year. I can't imagine it's a lot.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43473 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:18 am to
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Plus buses are designed to be in accidents and protect the occupants without seat belts.



yeah, like putting metal seat bracing at the same height as a young childs face.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7579 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:21 am to
I like the idea in theory but what about all the buses currently driving around without belts? How do you retrofit them? This would get very costly very quick for an individual who does not make OT kinda cash.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:22 am to
quote:

yeah, like putting metal seat bracing at the same height as a young childs face.



When was the last time you rode a school bus?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:36 am to
I've never understood why they don't have seatbelts tbh.



quote:


I don't think seat belts do all that much when a train broadsides a bus. Plus buses are designed to be in accidents and protect the occupants without seat belts.
This post is literally retarded.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 7:39 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:49 am to
Literally?
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16875 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 7:55 am to
It probably would save more children's lives if cell phones were deactivated while the bus is in motion.

I'm sure there are rules preventing bus drivers from using their cell phones while driving, but I see it every morning on my way to the office.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18364 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:01 am to
Lets start by getting them to fix their brakes. Ever hear a school bus come to a stop that didn't have squeaky brakes?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27069 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:06 am to
quote:

This post is literally retarded.



quote:

"School bus transportation is one of the safest forms of transportation in the United States. We require all new school buses to meet safety requirements over and above those applying to all other passenger vehicles. These include requirements for improved emergency exits, roof structure, seating and fuel systems, and bus body joint integrity. These requirements help ensure that school buses are extremely safe."

NHTSA feels that the best way to provide crash protection to passengers is through "compartmentalization," in which "buses provide occupant protection so that children are protected without the need to buckle-up. Occupant crash protection is provided by a protective envelope consisting of strong, closely-spaced seats that have energy-absorbing seat backs." Read the NHTSA statement, "Seatbelts on School Buses."
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 8:15 am to
Imagine the heightened safety if the bus had the padded seats AND seatbelts. Make no mistake about it, the no seatbelt method is strictly for convenience in getting kids on and off the bus. There's ZERO chance its safer without seatbelts than with.
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