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re: Sandy Hook "truthers". The worst people ever?

Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:11 pm to
So when prohibition was enacted the politians were just in on the alcohol sales and wanted the price to increase?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:13 pm to
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Politicians rarely understand or care about unintended consequences.


That's because they are just stooges for the corporations and Illuminati that make the real decisions.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:13 pm to
you ever watch Boardwalk? the politicians were definitely in bed with the bootleggers

Posted by Dagoose
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:14 pm to
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We all sheeple because we don't believe any truther bull shite you loons spout about Sandy Hook


No. Who said that?

When it comes people, I believe about anything is possible. I guess that does make me a loon.
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:19 pm to
So what exact actions has Bamz taken to implement any type of gun control in 7 years of office? Not just making general statements that we need to do something(lots of that) but concrete efforts to Create and push legislation, or to implement executive orders that infringe on our right to keep and bear arms?

Serious question; not trolling
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:24 pm to
why you asking me, bruh?
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:24 pm to
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you ever watch Boardwalk? the politicians were definitely in bed with the bootleggers


I don't disagree with your point, but referencing a drama on HBO isn't exactly a great source.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:25 pm to
hence the

but Boardwalk was loosely based off actual events
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:29 pm to
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When it comes people, I believe about anything is possible. I guess that does make me a loon.


Nah, there is a difference between believing anything is possible and outright questioning things like Sandy Hook or the moon landing. At some point a person with logic just has to concede to Occam's razor - I look at inconsistencies in the reporting and attribute it to being a highly stressful situation and breaking news. I'd argue that the inconsistencies actually lend credence to the event actually happening, if anything. If everyone got everything right immediately it would be much more shady.

Others look at it and think it must be something bigger. You're free to think what you want, but it is understandable when someone calls you a loon for making relatively absurd jumps and assumptions to explain a situation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:29 pm to
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and not truther facts, but like real facts



My blogs are better than your blogs...!!!
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:30 pm to
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hence the


Ahh, I see. I thought you were just laughing at the thought of many politicians NOT being in bed with bootlegging during prohibition.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:32 pm to


did bullet sales not sky rocket after SH? I don't need a blog for that

and I don't believe any of this, I'm just pointing out how I don't understand that someone could believe that Obama orchestrated all this other stuff, but that he couldn't also be in bed with the NRA or gun lobby as well

what makes one conspiracy sensical and others not?
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:33 pm to
Nothing wrong with being a skeptic. But there is a world of difference between skepticism and conspiracy fanaticism.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:35 pm to
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So when prohibition was enacted the politians were just in on the alcohol sales and wanted the price to increase?


A lot of them were, yeah.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:36 pm to
I don't think Obama orchestrated anything, but he does have a want to get gun control measures passed. I don't for one second think Obama is happy about the gun sales in this country.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:37 pm to
cool

not talking to you then
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:42 pm to
He didn't "orchestrate" anything in some grand, complex truther way. He simply let it be known to a group of influential media chiefs that the next time there was a school shooting he wanted to use it to push for gun control and wanted them to go full-court for gun control as soon as such an event happened in order to help. Being fellow travelers, they of course were more than happy to help. That's why you had the White House and the media both in lockstep, "ban guns!" before the dust even settled in Sandy Hook or we knew what had happened. It's really not that complicated, nor does it require anything staged about Sandy Hook. It felt suspicious, because on a level it was, though not to the extent that truthers took it.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:44 pm to
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Nothing wrong with being a skeptic. But there is a world of difference between skepticism and conspiracy fanaticism.


That is my point. No one is suggesting the events are infallible, but the idea that some conspiracy makes more sense than the accepted version is lunacy in most cases.

IMO, of all the conspiracies out there, the idea that Sandy Hook was faked or deliberate action from the US government is the worst. I can live with fake moon landing folks and elaborate 9/11 truthers much easier than I can this Sandy Hook BS. You can be upset with the politicizing that took place, but 20 six and seven year old children lost their life that day, and to insinuate otherwise is pretty pathetic. ETA: (Not directed at you Roger)
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:46 pm to
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It's really not that complicated, nor does it require anything staged about Sandy Hook. It felt suspicious, because on a level it was, though not to the extent that truthers took it.


That is fair, but those people are not the target of this thread. As you insinuated, there are plenty of people who take it much farther, and that is pure lunacy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:47 pm to
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what makes one conspiracy sensical and others not?


Let me consult ZeroHedge and get back to you.
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