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re: Sad. Infants in Kentucky dying from whooping cough.

Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:24 pm to
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The point made isn’t about Kentucky

Well...this thread is
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:27 pm to
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And in this case you should be reported to CHFS for not properly vaccinating your child from a communicable disease that is dangerous to the public. IMO that is textbook childhood neglect.


Woof. Let me ask you a question. Are mothers tested for Hep b while pregnant and before they give birth?


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Someone choosing to have an abortion is apples and oranges from choosing to vaccinate their children.


Yes, killing a baby is definitely more serious, I agree.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:28 pm to
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At the same time Kentucky state legislators passed laws since 2017 that no longer require a doctor’s signature for vaccine exemptions, have expanded exemptions for daycares and schools, and reduced public health funds that are typically used to promote childhood vaccinations.


Im fine with this
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Fascinating culture.

You know who also has low vaccination rates? Illegals, Hispanic or otherwise.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:33 pm to
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Woof. Let me ask you a question. Are mothers tested for Hep b while pregnant and before they give birth?


Not sure why the "woof"? I'd consider you a dangerous parent if you're not vaccinating your kid for Pertussis without a valid medical reason not to.

As far as Hep B, at least here in Kentucky, they are. There's also a program (since 1991) through the Cabinet for Health and Human Services to ensure testing, prevention, care, etc.

Perinatal Hep B testing and prevention program - Kentucky.gov
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Im fine with this


I'm sure you are. Thanks for being part of the problem.
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:37 pm to
Where did I say I wouldn't personally vaccinate my children?

The issue is the current approach to vaccines.

If a mother is tested for Hep B, and Hep B can only be transmitted via bodily fluids, why does a newborn need the Hep B vaccine within 12-24 hours of birth?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:40 pm to
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I'm sure you are. Thanks for being part of the problem.


The government should encourage and push proven vaccines with decades of data behind them.

It shouldnt force anything.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:41 pm to
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If a mother is tested for Hep B, and Hep B can only be transmitted via bodily fluids, why does a newborn need the Hep B vaccine within 12-24 hours of birth?


The hep B vaccine recs need to be reviewed

All pharmaceuticals have risks/benefits

The risks of the hep b vaccine are very low

But the benefits are basically 0 if the mother isnt an IV drug user or a whore
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:42 pm to
Agreed, I'm not sure why this concept of education is so frowned upon. The whole trust me I'm a doctor was sort of blown out of the water in the last decade.
Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:43 pm to
I'm not against the Hep B vaccine or the Whooping cough. I'm trying to understand why Hep B is required at birth when there is no risk of the baby being exposed.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:43 pm to
Parents should be jailed
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:46 pm to
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If a mother is tested for Hep B, and Hep B can only be transmitted via bodily fluids, why does a newborn need the Hep B vaccine within 12-24 hours of birth?


You're just asking questions.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:47 pm to
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The government should encourage and push proven vaccines with decades of data behind them.

It shouldnt force anything.


One of the things you quoted from my post was the reduction of public heath funds used to promote vaccinations. You said you're ok with that. How else do you think they should be educated?

Again, we'll agree to disagree on "forced" vaccinations. It's neglect if you don't. We can't sit and argue that parents should be held accountable when their kid falls in with a gang and hurts/kills someone but not accountable for vaccinating their kids and reducing the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. For me it's two sides of the same coin.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:47 pm to
Drumpf has blood on his hands for this!!
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:48 pm to
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You said you're ok with that. How else do you think they should be educated?


Their pediatrician that has had 4 years of med school and at least a 3 year residency
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:48 pm to
Pure baby = pure blood
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Where did I say I wouldn't personally vaccinate my children?

The issue is the current approach to vaccines.

If a mother is tested for Hep B, and Hep B can only be transmitted via bodily fluids, why does a newborn need the Hep B vaccine within 12-24 hours of birth?


Then you wouldn't be catching a childhood neglect charge.

As far as Hep B, having worked with families who have substance users as parents or recovering addicts that have lifelong Hep B infections, there's still risk for exposure for a newborn outside of the womb IMO. The vaccine itself is low risk, makes sense to vaccinate.
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:49 pm to
elections have consequences
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 2:50 pm to
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As far as Hep B, having worked with families who have substance users as parents or recovering addicts that have lifelong Hep B infections, there's still risk for exposure for a newborn outside of the womb IMO. The vaccine itself is low risk, makes sense to vaccinate.


So you agree the baby is only at risk if the mom is a drug user or a whore

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