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re: Russia Uses White Phosphorous on ISIS

Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:29 pm to
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The only sad part is that there are hundreds of women and children being held as slaves that will be hit by this stuff as well.


oh...are you talking about the ones they haven't raped and burned to death in metal cages already?

there are some left?
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:30 pm to
Jesus, dude. Link me to where I claimed we should "leave them alone".
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:31 pm to
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They will not stop in the face of death.


No, but they'll stop when they're dead.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:32 pm to
Good luck killing people based on their beliefs. They aren't fricking walking around wearing "I'm a Jihadist" tees.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:33 pm to
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Jesus, dude. Link me to where I claimed we should "leave them alone".


i was asking what your alternative is?

blow up a few that are planning terrorism or ...?

what's the answer? assholes gonna a-hole.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:34 pm to
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Russia Uses White Phosphorous on ISIS by Cosmo
Good. Should drop some Sarin as well. Maybe mix it with some smallpox.



Drop Charlie Sheen to spread some AIDS
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:36 pm to
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Good luck killing people based on their beliefs. They aren't fricking walking around wearing "I'm a Jihadist" tees.


if the US fostered 'christian missionaries' who routinely went into other countries and blew themselves up and killed innocent people CONSTANTLY..i don't think we could bitch when those countries came after us.


instead our missionaries go into other countries and treat sick people, help build houses and teach how to grow crops & shite.

yeah, our religious fanatics are just as bad.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:36 pm to
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The Japanese might have used similar tactics, but the motivations and beliefs are completely different. To compare the two is to miss details that describe what beliefs are motivating the behaviors. From what I've gathered, the Japanese were glorified by their community. The Jihadists believe they are rewarded by god. They will not stop in the face of death


Motivations and beliefs are different. But the fact they actively sought death and thought their god would reward them for that death are very similar. We did not defeat the Japanese by killing tons of them. We defeated them by convincing the one's we didn't kill that if they kept fighting the end result would not just be their death, but the death of their entire country, their whole way of life.

Since the dawn of civilization the way to win a war has never changed. To win you've got to break your opponent's will to continue fighting. And the only way to break the will of a foe who wants to die, is to make them see that not only will they die, their entire way of life and everything they love will likewise die if they don't give up.


ETA: if you think you've got a better way of defeating and stopping radical Islam, instead of just downvoting this post, spell out your ideas.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
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Good luck killing people based on their beliefs. They aren't fricking walking around wearing "I'm a Jihadist" tees.


You know much about the history of warfare son?

You don't win an area by asking the enemy to raise their hand. Unless we are willing to break some proverbial eggs we won't be making an omelette anytime soon.

Do you think they worry about collateral damage when they blow up planes and schools and stadiums? Shoot up concert halls and nightclubs?

We won't win unless we are willing to be as vicious as they are.


Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:39 pm to
I think he's suggesting that we find moderates to turn the tide from within the religion. The only problem is that the moderates are terrified of getting their heads lopped off like the rest of the normal world, so that's likely a losing battle as well.

Islam is a violent religion. Always has, always will be, and coddling moderates to influence the majority is an exercise in futility.

I've seen multiple people post on this board that their "moderate" Muslims friends eventually concede that violence in the name of Allah is justified in many, many different types of situations (honor killings, drawing Muhammad, slandering Islam, etc)
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
Is this where you pretend to understand the intricate concepts of international conflict and diplomacy?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
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I think he's suggesting that we find moderates to turn the tide from within the religion. The only problem is that the moderates are terrified of getting their heads lopped off


correct

in the US, if you 'infilitrate' a radical christian community (lol at that idea in the first place) and you are caught, you don't typically get tortured and beheaded along with your entire family.

aint. never. gonna. happen.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
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if the US fostered 'christian missionaries' who routinely went into other countries and blew themselves up and killed innocent people CONSTANTLY..i don't think we could bitch when those countries came after us.


instead our missionaries go into other countries and treat sick people, help build houses and teach how to grow crops & shite.

yeah, our religious fanatics are just as bad.



What the hell are you talking about?
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:41 pm to
Shut up, boy. The adults are talking now.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:42 pm to
You kiss your kids goodnight with that mouth?
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:42 pm to
FYI, I'm not down voting anything
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91540 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

if the US fostered 'christian missionaries' who routinely went into other countries and blew themselves up and killed innocent people CONSTANTLY..i don't think we could bitch when those countries came after us.


instead our missionaries go into other countries and treat sick people, help build houses and teach how to grow crops & shite.


What the hell are you talking about?


thought it was pretty self explanatory.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:44 pm to
Okay, son. You're going to be waiting a really long time for the US to engage in chemical warfare.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:45 pm to
russia
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:45 pm to


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