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re: Questions on Leasing a Vehicle

Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:36 pm to
Is everybody in here as much against renting a home/apartment as they are leasing a car? I don't lease my cars, and have never really looked into it, but it seems to be the same as someone renting instead of owning a home.

It just seems like a blanket statement such as "never lease a car" is not accurate in every situation, just like "never rent a home" would be.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:36 pm to
What's it say at 9 years of ownership and 3 consecutive 3 year leases?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:37 pm to
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I gotta be misunderstanding you because if you can't find a $10k vehicle worth buying, you ain't lookin'.


You're definitely misunderstanding. He doesn't want a $10k vehicle. He wants a nice new car, and he doesn't want to blow through all the cash he has to furnish his new living arrangement when he gets on location for his job. It's like you don't even bother grasping details.
Posted by willythedemon11
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:18 pm to
Here's a couple of quick clarifications....

On a lease, your 'interest rate' is referred to as a 'money factor'. Googling 'interest rate to money factor calculator' will give you an idea of what your money factor compares to in an interest rate.

'Cap cost' is the selling price of the vehicle, from which the monthly notes are derived (factoring in too the residual at the end if the lease, which is influenced by term and mileage)

quote:

Retailer Participation Required. For well qualified lessees. Offer ends 3/31/14. Excl. taxes, title & lic. Retailer participation req. $4400 CONSUMER DOWN PYMNT + $249 1st month payment + tax, tags, fees. . 2013 G37 Sedan AWD subj. to avail. to well-qualified customers who lease through Nissan-Infiniti LT. Subj. to credit approval. MSRP $38310 incl. dest. chrg. Net capitalized cost of $36111.11 incl. a $700 non-refundable acq. fee. Retailer contribution may affect actual price set by retailer. Monthly pymnts. total $9711.18. At lease end, purchase for $23752.20 plus $300 purchase option fee (except KS & WI) plus tax, or pay excess wear & use plus $0.25/mile for mileage over 10,000 miles/year. Lessee is responsible for maint. and repairs. Disposition fee due at term. of lease. No security deposit req.


This is from an advertised lease special. When a dealer runs a lease special like this, everything is bottomed out. Don't expect any movement on the 'cap cost'.

Any 'fees' identified in this ad are coming directly from the manufacturer, thus, the dealer is powerless to waive them.

So the $249 a month gets your attention... Go ahead and assume that your monthly usage tax is going to be $30-$40 a month. Putting you closer to $290.

Wait, what's that? You wanted one with floor mats? Keep in mind that an advertised lease special is on the most base model of a car possible, and once you see one with just a couple of manufacturer options and add gap coverage , you'll likely be around $350.

5k down for a $350 note on a base Infiniti G37 (awd) sounds about right. They have gotten crazy on their residuals in the last couple of years so if you are going this route, it's not that bad of a choice, relatively speaking...

Leasing a domestic pick-up truck? That's plain out retarded.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 5:45 pm to
In know people who own multiple rental properties including beach home in Pensacola, but their primary home they rent and don't own.
Posted by Layabout
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

why not pay $10k cash for a vehicle then sell it when you save up the cash for something nicer?

Who wants to drive a $10K piece of shite for three years?

Do you have any idea what you can buy for $10,000?
Posted by Layabout
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:20 pm to
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Because I only have 25 days.


Do it tomorrow and frick all the nay-sayers here.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15230 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:22 pm to
There is rarely a good reason to lease-

IF you cannot afford to purchase Then a lease makes a no sense either

Buy a used vehicle- you sound like you are headed toward a financial nightmare

Do yourself a favor and buy yourself some time

Why are you in such of a need of a vehicle? Do you not have one or is yours dead?
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34250 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:22 pm to
It's not accurate in every situation, but it is accurate in 98% of the situations.

Honestly, leasing is for suckers. You could make a better case for renting a home over leasing a vehicle.

Nb4 the "leasing is good for my business" accounting washouts.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:23 pm to
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Who wants to drive a $10K piece of shite for three years?


My dad but he'll drive it for 10 years and is worth more than anyone posting in this thread
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:25 pm to
Paul tell us about the tax advantages of leasing
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:26 pm to
Yeah, I'd love to hear this as well.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:34 pm to
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What's it say at 9 years of ownership and 3 consecutive 3 year leases?

What do you think it says? Quit being obtuse. We're obviously not discussing someone keeping a vehicle for 9 years.

Do you nay-sayers not understand the desire of people to own a new vehicle? Any method of financing a NEW vehicle will never be financially advantageous than a used vehicle. Vehicles depreciate the most in their first few years, so not taking that hit will always work out to the advantage of the buyer.

There's multiple advantages to leasing a new vehicle, once the decision has been made to pursue a new vehicle. OP, you need to come to that decision first. Financially, it's always better to buy a used vehicle.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34250 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:37 pm to



The only multiple advantages to leasing are the ones carrying the paper.

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77241 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:06 pm to
173 posts about leasing a vehicle...who'd of thunk it?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:09 pm to
:Notshocked:

Still waiting on all those tax advantages, Walt.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:12 pm to
i'm not discussing new vs used


Most people keep vehicles longer than 3 years but that's what you used on your spreadsheet because that's the time period that gave you the desired results

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77241 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:13 pm to
Who is Walt?
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3545 posts
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:17 pm to
I read the first page here. Not reading the rest. I am not the smartest one here but if you lease a car for personnel use and not as a business expense that is one of the dumbest moves you can make. Pen fed has 0% interest right now. Good luck.
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