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re: Question about the Frisco track meet stabbing
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:01 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:01 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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Some of my best memories are from my kids high school track meets.
my dad had his own business and didn't see a whole of my athletic stuff but in the 8th grade I was city champion in the discus, when he came home that night he asked how my day was and I told him that, he then asked if I had my homework done, won a pole vault meet in the north grade(9'6"
) with kind of the same reaction 
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:01 pm to 214
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Bringing a weapon to a school was certainly voluntary.
Is that a crime?
I ask because he has not yet been charged with that.
Karmelo Anthony Collin County court record
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:06 pm to Stinger_1066
quote:100%
Is that a crime?
It also speaks to the pre-meditation element of the current charge of first degree murder.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:12 pm to dallastigers
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it’s much less common to treat area like it’s your own school’s when it’s not. If asked to leave you do so as it not your area to hang out at (you also never go there by yourself with no members of the other team present due to all their personal stuff in area specifically because it’s not your area).
But those are only "rules of thumb". I highly doubt they are written down anywhere. They are most certainly not laws.
So, his presence there was not a violation of any written rule or law.
He was not asked to leave by anyone in a position of authority, as far as we know from what has been reported.
As I advised the last guy I replied to - take your emotion out of it and think logically through the sequence of events.
Think about who was reported to have initiated the confrontation.
Think about how a good defense attorney might present his / her case.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:13 pm to 214
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100%
Then why has he not yet been charged with the crime of bringing a knife to a school-sanctioned track meet?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:17 pm to Stinger_1066
quote:I don't work for the DA's office.
Then why has he not yet been charged with the crime of bringing a knife to a school-sanctioned track meet?
Here's the statute for your ease of reference...
Tx. Penal Code Sec. 46.03
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:44 pm to Stinger_1066
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If the defense can convince the jury that this is true, then the prosecution can forget about 1st degree.
That depends on if Anthony initiated it or egged Austin on along with refusing to leave another school’s area. Not only did Anthony bring a knife to a school district event and onto school district property, but he was carrying it around with him when his school had its own place to store personal items. I am sure some kids may carry a small bag to carry shoes for different events, towel, and water bottle. I don’t think that’s put together at home, so he would have purposely moved knife to the more portable bag he was going to keep with him.
I don’t know what kind of bag he used or what else was in it or his normal practice at events, but I am just bringing it up as something they will likely look into as far as whether confrontation including using knife was planned in advance. I don’t think murder was planned, but I do think he meant to stir things up, get Austin to react, and then inflict great bodily harm upon Austin which in this case ended up murdering the kid.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:48 pm to Stinger_1066
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If the defense can convince the jury that this is true, then the prosecution can forget about 1st degree. It will be viewed as a negligent or reckless action. Probably 2nd degree / involuntary manslaughter, something like that.
Unless the twins were on top of him pummeling him like Trayvon was it ain’t gonna work.
Sounds like KA intentionally brought a knife and intentionally went into a space he wasn’t supposed to be in.
From the witnesses it sounds like one of the kids grabbed him or hit him once then the knife came. Good luck with that.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:51 pm to 777Tiger
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my dad had his own business and didn't see a whole of my athletic stuff but in the 8th grade I was city champion in the discus, when he came home that night he asked how my day was and I told him that, he then asked if I had my homework done, won a pole vault meet in the north grade(9'6" ) with kind of the same reaction
Was 7th, 8th, and 9th Junior High? New Orleans/Jefferson Parish?
Pushing 10’ in 9th means pretty good coaching and you putting in man’s work.
Pretty impressive actually.
Discus. Pole Vault. Javelin?
My kids were doing sprints and relays.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 4:59 pm to Stinger_1066
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It is not my job to think for you. Think about it without emotion. Your emotion is leading you down the wrong path. I made my prediction. If I'm wrong, I'll own it. BTW, one of my sons is a Republican DA in Kansas, so I have been given some professional insight into possible outcomes. Kansas and Texas law is not exactly the same, but close enough.
My emotion? I'm just asking you to explain how you come up with the idea that he accidentally killed him, which is what involuntary manslaughter is. He intentionally stabbed him in the fricking heart - but sincerely accidentally killed him?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:06 pm to 214
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I don't work for the DA's office.
Here's the statute for your ease of reference...
Tx. Penal Code Sec. 46.03
He has not been charged with that (yet).
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:09 pm to dallastigers
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I don’t think murder was planned, but I do think he meant to stir things up, get Austin to react, and then inflict great bodily harm upon Austin which in this case ended up murdering the kid.
I agree. And I'm not sure that meets the definition of 1st degree murder.
That is why I think he will either plead down to, or be convicted of, a lesser charge.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:10 pm to tylercsbn9
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intentionally went into a space he wasn’t supposed to be in.
There is no law that says he could not be where he was.
We're not even sure if there was any written rule that says he should not have been there.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:14 pm to Sam Quint
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My emotion? I'm just asking you to explain how you come up with the idea that he accidentally killed him, which is what involuntary manslaughter is. He intentionally stabbed him in the fricking heart - but sincerely accidentally killed him?
I already told you - "involuntary" does not equal "accidentally". Stop using the word "accidentally". It makes you sound stupid. Unless you prefer to continue sounding stupid.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:14 pm to Stinger_1066
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There is no law that says he could not be where he was. We're not even sure if there was any written rule that says he should not have been there.
Never said it was against the law (it just goes to the premeditation) but anyone with two brain cells to rub together can decipher he went there intentionally to provoke. Thus the reason he brought a knife and why he yelled touch me and see what happens (if he’s witnesses are saying proves to be true). He will go down for murder barring getting an OJ type racist jury
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:15 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
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Was 7th, 8th, and 9th Junior High?
yeah, I was in North La
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pretty good coaching
my dad, he and all of his brothers were stud athletes, my dad held a few track and field records at LSU for a while
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Javelin?
didn't start till hs, I was playing FB, BB, and Baseball so couldn't practice for track but the track coach asked me to do a few events in meets, I was pretty fast in HS but the full time track guys were better at it
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:17 pm to Stinger_1066
quote:you said that already
He has not been charged with that (yet).
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:18 pm to 214
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Then why has he not yet been charged with the crime of bringing a knife to a school-sanctioned track meet?
I don't work for the DA's office.
MHere's the statute for your ease of reference...
Tx. Penal Code Sec. 46.03
Being illegal may depend on the size of the blade. Having a knife there on district property and at any sporting event are definitely against school policies and something you sign off on each year (& obviously against the law to use to murder someone with knife), but Texas allows blades shorter than 5 and half inches into a lot of places (not sure if not being 18 factors in).
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 5:50 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:01 pm to 777Tiger
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my dad
Yep. Says it all.
It’s funny, even our best, most influential coaches are surrogates for Dad.
My most influential surrogate Dad was my junior high school football coach.
Later in life I would catch myself dealing with my kids and their friends saying and doing things that made me wince say to myself “I’ve become my Dad and Coach P.”
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:00 pm to Stinger_1066
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There is no law that says he could not be where he was. We're not even sure if there was any written rule that says he should not have been there.
This is dumb. Let me give you an example to show you how sitting in the “wrong” area could knowingly cause issues and conflict. Imagine a Florida football player defiantly sitting on the LSU football bench during a game. All the lsu players tell him to leave. He refuses and says “touch me and see what happens”. If that guy had a knife and stabbed an lsu player for showing him out of the teams area it’s the same thing as this incident. The track team tent is like the football team sideline or baseball digout or basketball bench.
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