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re: Question about the Algerian shemale boxer:
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:40 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:40 pm to lsupride87
how does someone with XY genes have a vagina? Micro penis, perhaps.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:48 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
real question, how do those claiming this XY human, know that there are female reproductive organs? Certainly nobody knows this person, nor can I discern that photographs have been circulated online. So how do those saying this XY human is "intersex" know this??
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:35 pm to ThoseGuys
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want to see a story come a out about the Algerian competing in the Olympics so she can try to have trans surgery to be a man in France.
Then all the far right people have to back track from calling her a man
Yea that'll show them right wing weirdos.. I love how YOU people are all high and mighty about this particular instance. You say that this tranny isn't a tranny and was born without a cock and I will take you at your word on that bc honestly my time is entirely too valuable to research "cross dressing attention whores". My question and outrage remains the same. Why are you not upset that the potentiality of a MAN beating the shite out of a woman legally to get a gold medal and being the toughest man in the world who fights women? So this chick has no dick? Ok, in my mind then she is being unfairly punished. But what about the gutless liberal democratic machine (YOU) thinking this would've been ok and not batting an eye over putting a grown man in a ring with a girl. Or a grown man in a bar room bathroom with you DAUGHTER, wife, or whatever it is you sleep with? How does this one dickless chick somehow vindicate your entire premise on this just bc we are incorrect? Explain to me when the next instance isn't a mistake but actually what you mentally ill people have strived for and legalized intentionally? I will tell you if ITS opponent is in the "sabanisarustedspoke" blood line it will get messy in a hurry bc no man is ever going to take away my daughter's lifelong dream and body of work simply bc half the country lacks accountability and demands special treatment in the name of "equality". So much hypo and entitlement in your entire thought process and the Fact of the matter is your entire position is based off of people who never had to fight or work for anything in their lives so they expect everyone else to do that for them. Or for you, I should say.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:37 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
noone even knows the XY chromosome thing is true haha
Apparently the Russian guy went to the committee and told them she was disqualified, rather than the normal procedure.
IBA Russian president, Umar Kremlev, claimed that DNA test results showed the two athletes have XY chromosomes, citing it as the reason they were disqualified in the world championships. The IBA also cited high levels of testosterone in Khelif's system.
However, the test results were never published and Khelif has never disclosed her biological markers, calling the decision a "big conspiracy." The disqualification came after Khelif defeated Russian boxer Azalia Amineva in the 2023 tournament. IBA said it stripped Lin of a bronze medal because it claimed she failed to meet unspecified eligibility requirements in a biochemical test.
Apparently the Russian guy went to the committee and told them she was disqualified, rather than the normal procedure.
IBA Russian president, Umar Kremlev, claimed that DNA test results showed the two athletes have XY chromosomes, citing it as the reason they were disqualified in the world championships. The IBA also cited high levels of testosterone in Khelif's system.
However, the test results were never published and Khelif has never disclosed her biological markers, calling the decision a "big conspiracy." The disqualification came after Khelif defeated Russian boxer Azalia Amineva in the 2023 tournament. IBA said it stripped Lin of a bronze medal because it claimed she failed to meet unspecified eligibility requirements in a biochemical test.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:02 am to White Roach
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it a dude or not? Cause no dude I know has a vagina. They either trans or a chick. I'm not out here calling Gina Carano no dude just cause she more masculine than a lot of guys now.
To put in overly simplistic terms, think "birth defect". Certainly not common, but it happens on rare occasions.
People are born with male and female genitalia, although typically not fully developed. Such as the evexitance of not fully developed or descended testicles and a micro penis. Your "daughter" is raised as a female, hits puberty, and the show begins.
That is a great explanation. Thank you. So what you're telling me is that that 1/500,000,000 odd birth defect as you've stated, then wound up being a 1/100,000,000 people Olympic level athlete or boxer? I can live with that also. I can't live with that happening in boxing, swimming, rugby, etc. every year from here on out with the same cries from the Socialist party of America that "Trans" dudes have no physical advantage over a woman. Either every year, in every physical competition they attempt, we have found a tranny who beat ALL odds and was the best woman on the planet at what it competes in or they are lying and knowingly and forcfully putting our daughters in harms way. Which one is it?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:45 am to sabanisarustedspoke
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we have found a tranny who beat ALL odds and was the best woman on the planet at what it competes in
Her record is 9 wins and 5 losses vs women. You think she's the best on the planet?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:06 am to UncleRuckus
They all enjoy beating women.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 3:00 am to No Colors
[quote]I believe the boxer was born with female genitals, but with testicles inside her body. She is a she and has never identified as gay or Trans or any of that. But she has a high level of T due to the presence of the testicles.[/quote
I heard they tested for some other event awhile back and she was xy. Technically she was born a man.
I heard they tested for some other event awhile back and she was xy. Technically she was born a man.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:17 am to TigerBaitOohHaHa
quote:No, you can be XY with a vagina
how does someone with XY genes have a vagina? Micro penis, perhaps.
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A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:13 pm to Corinthians420
LINK
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 1:17 am
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:09 am to lsupride87
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No, you can be XY with a vagina
if you are referring to Swyer syndrome they have an unclosed opening (which would have formed a shaft) that can appear like a vagina but no female ovaries. Why is this important? Ovaries are where most of the estrogen is produced in women. Those with XY have gonads, which produce Testosterone.
This is the crux of why someone who has gonads/XY chromosomes has an unfair advantage in women's sports. They will have more muscle, they will be taller, and they will be stronger.
there needs to be a bright red line in women's sports, for the sheer safety of those competing. Even if you don't give a shite that its unfair.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:16 am to BFIV
Homosexuality is against islam.
I dont know about algeria but in iran you have a sex change so you dont get in trouble for homosexuality.
But you have to have the surgery, you are not trans if you just say you are. And you have to follow the sex segregation. There is no gender fluid crap.
Alos when looking at these laws it seems more or less in these countries public acts or public displays of homosexuality are illegal. You just have to stay in the closet and be gay in private.
I dont know about algeria but in iran you have a sex change so you dont get in trouble for homosexuality.
But you have to have the surgery, you are not trans if you just say you are. And you have to follow the sex segregation. There is no gender fluid crap.
Alos when looking at these laws it seems more or less in these countries public acts or public displays of homosexuality are illegal. You just have to stay in the closet and be gay in private.
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/6/24 at 10:19 am to lsupride87
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No, you can be XY with a vagina
a vagina with balls
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:08 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
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how does someone with XY genes have a vagina? Micro penis, perhaps.
The disorders causing an XY to be born with a vagina or some form of it are one with a defective Y in the XY causing inability to produce testosterone or another disorder which causes complete androgen insensitivity where their produced testosterone has no effect.
Both aren’t fully functional women.
One cannot produce testosterone naturally and also requires taking estrogen & progesterone to experience puberty including to develop functioning feminine organs and have menstrual cycles as they can’t produce those hormones either due to having only one X chromosome. They will still never have functional ovaries and can’t produce eggs even with the hormone therapy. Streak gonads have to be removed. Without estrogen therapy would develop closer to an androgynous body form. Even though they do not naturally produce testosterone I think that they would still benefit physically on some level from testosterone therapy or juicing (not to develop male sex organs as that ship has passed but to enhance muscle development and so on).
Being completely insensitive to testosterone the other cannot make use of their produced testosterone at all which then is converted to estrogen. They don’t have fallopian tubes, a cervix, or a uterus. They likely have a shallow vagina that is like a pouch and unconnected to anything else, and do have undescended testicles (until removed as cancer is very possible). They do not have periods. Without any type of hormone therapy these individuals will develop a typical feminine body form externally with most only diagnosed after not menstruating by age 15 or 16. While testing positive for testosterone they would not benefit from it at all which is entire reason for their abnormal development.
Depending on source the above 2 may make up 0.002% of births or less.
For some any form of a vagina at birth regardless of being XY and lacking various female internals and/or the ability to produce feminine hormones means born female, but I have been hearing for several years now that external sex organs used to “assign” sex at birth aren’t definitive…
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 12:34 pm
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