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re: Putting Dog Down: Vet Gouging Me?
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:36 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:36 pm to East Coast Band
How bout “blind” and “paralyzed”?
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Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:38 pm to JudgeHolden
Man up and put that dog down.
When all is said and done you will feel better that you ended it for him instead of some stranger.
When all is said and done you will feel better that you ended it for him instead of some stranger.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:39 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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He said it was $200 for the exam alone WITHOUT blood work. So blood work would be more in addition to the $200.
Where did the OP say that? He just said a full physical exam would cost $200. To me, a full physical exam includes blood work and testing.
OP, can you clarify if blood work and testing is included in that $200?
If it's $200 plus cost of blood work and testing... I would agree that is a ripoff.
Also, OP, I think the testing and blood is needed to give a medical reason to euthanize. Obviously simply looking at the dog doesn't meet the vet's standard... whatever that may be.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:41 pm to JudgeHolden
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So I’ve decided that a blind, paralyzed dog should be put down, and you have to do blood tests at my expense to ear your conscience. Bull fricking shite.
If you want them to do the deed... it is their decision.
I am sure there are vets out there, or just good ole boys, who will take care of this for you without all this "hassle". So I don't know why you are keeping on about this.
If every vet out there is requiring this... then perhaps it's not the vet that is out of line.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:42 pm to JudgeHolden
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And I have a legal obligation to the people around me not to let an old, anxious, blind dog bite them in fear.
And there are ways to do that without putting a dog down. A leash, for starters.
Look... I get it... quality of life issue for the dog. But a vet might not agree with you that quality of life is worth putting down a dog that might otherwise live a while. Especially if there is no obvious suffering.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:44 pm to JudgeHolden
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How bout “blind” and “paralyzed”?
I feel like "blind" is not a good enough reason to put down a dog.
"paralyzed" - I thought he was just having trouble walking. Again... big difference. If the dog is unable to move... to me... that's enough of a reason to put down without any other reasons needed. But if he's just a bit slower or needs some assistance jumping into the bed... that's not enough for me... and maybe your vet.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:47 pm to JudgeHolden
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He’s treated her for years. He knows her condition. She’s 15, blind, and partially paralyzed. She’s very anxious.
That’s odd. We took my parent’s 14 year old beagle in for having seizures last year. They tried to treat her with medication but it didn’t slow them down at all. We knew it was time but my Mom had a really hard time with it. The vet personally sat down with her to help her come to the decision. We paid a nominal fee.
Sounds like there’s either more to the story or you need a new vet.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:54 pm to JudgeHolden
I figured a “judge” would understand someone following official guidelines/rules by the governing body which provides them a license to practice. They are obligated to do certain things and sometimes that entails advising you about treatment even if you turn it down. They present that to the AVMA as defense of malpractice.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
My GSP could barely walk and couldn’t do stairs any longer. Brought her into the vet, she examined the dog and results were a compressed vertibrae. No feeling in back legs. Vet agreed dog had no quality left and had no problem putting dog down. We had four pets go thru that vet practice and they were truly professional and compassionate every time. 30 plus year relationship. No charge for exam or final move. They even sent flowers.
Beaver Crossing Animal Clinic in Lilburn, Ga if anyone needs an excellent vet.
Beaver Crossing Animal Clinic in Lilburn, Ga if anyone needs an excellent vet.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Where did the OP say that? He just said a full physical exam would cost $200. To me, a full physical exam includes blood work and testing
The dog is known to the practice. It is 14 years old, blind, and has some degree of paralysis. There should be a basic exam fee before euthanasia, not a annual exam visit. Why would they quote him lab and testing costs? How do they even know that labs and testing are required over the phone.
Now maybe this was just some receptionist that quoted this over the phone and the Vet will waive the exam fee. If not, that vet is a douche. Like I said, in medicine if we perform an exam and a procedure on the same day we can bill for one or the other but not both if the exam leads to the procedure. Seems like the same thing should apply here. It’s not an annual exam, it’s a basic physical before euthanasia.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:57 pm to More beer please
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I figured a “judge” would understand someone following official guidelines/rules by the governing body which provides them a license to practice. They are obligated to do certain things and sometimes that entails advising you about treatment even if you turn it down. They present that to the AVMA as defense of malpractice.
I don’t think most people have a problem with that. My issue is the cost of a basic exam before euthanasia for an established patient
This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:58 pm to WaWaWeeWa
So you think less work should be done before taking an animals life? Got it
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:59 pm to WaWaWeeWa
That’s not the OP’s problem and he has yet to say the exam didn’t include blood work.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:59 pm to LSUFanHouston
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that's not enough for me... and maybe your vet.
Two things here. frick and you.
I’ve been down this road with shepherds before.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:00 pm to JudgeHolden
Qrtyly heart worm testing is unnecessary. My lab had heart worms that we caught and eradicated and we only checked once per year after that.
You need to find a new vet.
You need to find a new vet.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:01 pm to More beer please
Who said that?
I just said that a basic exam should be required
Why does that make labs and tests necessary? Do your guidelines say that lab work and tests are necessary before euthanasia?
Why would they quote him labwork and testing costs before even evaluating the dog?
I just said that a basic exam should be required
Why does that make labs and tests necessary? Do your guidelines say that lab work and tests are necessary before euthanasia?
Why would they quote him labwork and testing costs before even evaluating the dog?
This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:01 pm to More beer please
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figured a “judge” would understand someone following official guidelines/rules by the governing body which provides them a license to practice.
So quote em, Doctor Do More.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:07 pm to JudgeHolden
There’s a 102 page document the AVMA publicly posts regarding euthanasia alone. You go read it and find out for yourself.
But you seem like the know-it-all type so I’m sure you already have your DVM
But you seem like the know-it-all type so I’m sure you already have your DVM
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:07 pm to JudgeHolden
When a cash paying patient asks us how much a visits will cost we say... X is the cost of a basic exam. Less if you are established vs a new patient
Then we state that if other testing is necessary the price could increase by X. But the patient always reserves the right to say if they do or do not want that testing. Sometimes I can’t give them a solid diagnosis if they choose to not have the testing, and some are ok with that.
That’s why it makes no sense why their $200 exam should include labwork and testing. They don’t even know what labwork or testing is necessary. Which means they are just doing it reflexively for profit
Then we state that if other testing is necessary the price could increase by X. But the patient always reserves the right to say if they do or do not want that testing. Sometimes I can’t give them a solid diagnosis if they choose to not have the testing, and some are ok with that.
That’s why it makes no sense why their $200 exam should include labwork and testing. They don’t even know what labwork or testing is necessary. Which means they are just doing it reflexively for profit
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:10 pm to More beer please
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There’s a 102 page document the AVMA publicly posts regarding euthanasia alone. You go read it and find out for yourself.
Show us where it says certain labwork and testing are REQUIRED before euthanasia. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be done in certain situations where the dog may not seem like it’s in bad shape, but why should it be done in ALL situations?
This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 6:12 pm
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