re: Proposal etiquette when SO isn't close with father

I would show up to the dad's house with 1 goat. Offer him the goat for his daughters hand. If he feels offended tell him you already get the milk for free and weren't the first. Tell him if he wasn't a POS he would have been offered a farm.

Then go to the mothers' house and ask the stepdad the right way. Then go to the mom tell her the news. kiss her on the cheek, give her a big hug, and a framed photo of what you expect your offspring together to look like.

Go home and tell you future Mrs' to disregard family texts and phone calls for awhile.

No. I wouldn't. I ask my spouse. I'm not asking permission of any one else. that deadbeat gonna pay you a dowery or something?