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re: Point to Ponder #1: Misuse of the word “Church”

Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:50 pm to
I was raised Methodist, and maintained my affiliation with it until 2016, when it became unbearable. I have floated around since, and I have had quite a strong calling, as of late, to eastern orthodoxy because of the tradition and the liturgy, the latter of which I have missed since leaving the Methodist church. I have recently made friends with an Anglican priest and his insight in casual conversation about the Bible, the early church fathers, and the early ecclisia, have been more life giving than anything i have recieved from the denominational and non-denom churches that i have attended in the last 20 years. Just scratching the surface in this pursuit of Christ.
Posted by SeraphimSarov
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:07 pm to
Glory be to God!

It is truly awesome to see you listening to the call of God on your soul.

It’s been a long journey for my wife and I and we have grown greatly in Christ through learning humility, repentance and to forsake ourselves for Him.

Orthodoxy is the fullness of the Faith. It means “correct/straight” and it truly is the narrow way in which we follow Christ.

I’d recommend attending services at several different jurisdictions (Antiochian/OCA/ROCOR, etc) and start with Vespers services on a Saturday.

May God bless you and keep you as you seek Him. Will help in any way I can.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:13 pm to
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maybe a home, maybe a synagogue, even in fields or barns to remember Christ at the Eucharist as He promised that He would be in their midst,


Which renders the catholic first church narrative useless. Constantine found those gathered together, the first churches, and became a Christian, therefore Rome never fell, it became the Catholic Church.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 10:16 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24066 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:14 pm to
I'm assuming all here know this doesn't matter, but you are just discussing for the sake of a somewhat interesting discussion....
Posted by SeraphimSarov
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Constantine found those gathered together, the first churches, and became a Christian, therefore Rome never fell, it became the Catholic Church.


Appreciate you joining in the discussion.

No sir, St. Constantine was not on scene until the 4th Century (306-337 AD) and the Good News had been spread by Christians throughout the ancient world.

However, it was St. Constantine who issued the Edict of Milan in 313 that made it legal for Christians to worship openly and he also converted to Christ from paganism under the influence of his mother, St. Helen.

Prior to St. Constantine, the immense Roman Empire was divided into Western and Eastern halves, governed by two independent emperors and their corulers called “Caesars”.

Regarding Rome, the Emperor St. Constantine renounced paganism and did not let his capital remain in ancient Rome, the former center of the pagan realm. He transferred his capital to the East, to the city of Byzantium, which was renamed Constantinople, the city of Constantine (May 11).

Constantine was deeply convinced that only Christianity could unify the immense Roman Empire with its diverse peoples. He supported the Church in every way. He recalled Christian confessors from banishment, he built churches, and he showed concern for the clergy.

What we know as the Roman Catholic Church split from the Eastern Catholic Church (now known as Eastern Orthodoxy) in 1054 due to the Pope in Rome declaring he was above the other 4 Bishops of the Church in Jerusalem, Antioch, Constantinople and Alexandria and the disagreement on the Filioque.

And…Rome did fall to the Barbarians in 476…while Constantinople continued to rock on for over 1000 more years.






This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 10:56 pm
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