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re: Pitbull attacks, child dies
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:46 am to Salmon
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:46 am to Salmon
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but forgive me for being nervous for them having such a powerful dog so close to my house with a 10 month old daughter that they do not know the background
I wouldn't allow a 10 month old around the damn neighbor's poodle much less a larger breed dog, EVER.
That's insane.
They're dogs.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:46 am to Mike da Tigah
it's pretty fricking simple
some breeds are more capable of killing when they snap or whatever than others
yeah, in the vast majority of cases, it is the shitty owners that teach these dogs to be aggressive, but why risk it?
makes no sense why any parent would want to keep something so powerful around small children
some breeds are more capable of killing when they snap or whatever than others
yeah, in the vast majority of cases, it is the shitty owners that teach these dogs to be aggressive, but why risk it?
makes no sense why any parent would want to keep something so powerful around small children
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:47 am to Mike da Tigah
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I wouldn't allow a 10 month old around the damn neighbor's poodle much less a larger breed dog, EVER.
That's insane.
They're dogs.
oh god
now who is using "emotionalism" instead of reason?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:48 am to Mike da Tigah
Should all pit bulls be banned? No.
Should owners of pit bulls face manslaughter charges in a case like this? Yes.
Everyone in this thread has agreed that an aggressive pit bull is the result of how it was raised, so the owners should take the responsibility. Perhaps if people faced charges for the actions of their dogs they would be a bit more inclined to be responsible.
Should owners of pit bulls face manslaughter charges in a case like this? Yes.
Everyone in this thread has agreed that an aggressive pit bull is the result of how it was raised, so the owners should take the responsibility. Perhaps if people faced charges for the actions of their dogs they would be a bit more inclined to be responsible.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:49 am to Salmon
quote:
I wouldn't allow a 10 month old around the damn neighbor's poodle much less a larger breed dog, EVER.
That's insane.
They're dogs.
quote:
oh god
now who is using "emotionalism" instead of reason?
My brother was bitten by a poodle when he was a baby. It belonged to our grandmother. This happened before I was born but from what I was told the dog was dead from a shotgun blast to the head within minutes of the incident.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:49 am to slackster
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Should owners of pit bulls face manslaughter charges in a case like this? Yes.
I tried to make this point earlier in the thread but all the pit owners ignored it
wonder why...?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:50 am to Darth_Vader
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My brother was bitten by a poodle when he was a baby. It belonged to our grandmother. This happened before I was born but from what I was told the dog was dead from a shotgun blast to the head within minutes of the incident.
ok..?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:52 am to Mike da Tigah
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I wouldn't allow a 10 month old around the damn neighbor's poodle much less a larger breed dog, EVER.
That's insane.
They're dogs.
A poodle...
A fricking poodle. Really? I understand the 10 month old thing, but a fricking poodle?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:54 am to Camo Tiger 337
and he missed my entire point
I'm not going to put my 10 month old next to any dog right now and be like "play!"
the point was that if the dog gets out, having a pit, that I do not know, running around in my yard would make me much more nervous than poodle
I'm not going to put my 10 month old next to any dog right now and be like "play!"
the point was that if the dog gets out, having a pit, that I do not know, running around in my yard would make me much more nervous than poodle
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 8:55 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:55 am to slackster
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Everyone in this thread has agreed that an aggressive pit bull is the result of how it was raised, so the owners should take the responsibility. Perhaps if people faced charges for the actions of their dogs they would be a bit more inclined to be responsible.
how is it that police dogs that are bred and raised and trained to be working dogs still fail and are incapable of doing the job? wither over or under aggressive?? I'm confused. if its how they are raised how do they fail?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:56 am to WNCTiger
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The father has to live with the fact that HIS dogs killed HIS daughter. That's punishment enough.
Umm, no. The pit owner was the boyfriend or husband of the girl's mother, but wasn't the father of the girl. The girl's father lives in New Iberia.
Also, this kind of defense is what you hear when a drunk driver gets in an accident and kills his family. Do you think he should avoid legal ramifications because he has suffered enough?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:00 am to Salmon
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some breeds are more capable of killing when they snap or whatever than others
So, you don't think a shepherd, Dobbie, or rot can kill a human? How about a chow? None of them are capable of killing a human?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:01 am to Salmon
I understand that, and really can't argue with it. Your neighbors' dog and not even they know the background. All they know is the BS that the animal shelter told them, so they wouldn't have to deal with it anymore.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:01 am to Mike da Tigah
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So, you don't think a shepherd, Dobbie, or rot can kill a human? How about a chow? None of them are capable of killing a human?
of course they can
that is why I wouldn't own any of them either
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:01 am to HunhBruh
quote:
how is it that police dogs that are bred and raised and trained to be working dogs still fail and are incapable of doing the job? wither over or under aggressive?? I'm confused. if its how they are raised how do they fail
So which is it? The dogs or the owners?
You made the choice to own a pit bull. That dog killed someone. You are not liable?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:03 am to Salmon
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My brother was bitten by a poodle when he was a baby. It belonged to our grandmother. This happened before I was born but from what I was told the dog was dead from a shotgun blast to the head within minutes of the incident.
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ok..?
Just pointing out that even a Poodle can attack a kid. B
But the difference is that poodle attack probably warranted at most a band-aid, kissing the "boo-boo", and sitting in momma's lap a few minutes to calm down the crying. But a Pit attack commonly leads to things like a kid having their entire scalp torn off or flat out being killed.
Another key difference is once she saw her poodle bite a child, she immediately ordered it's death (she told her son to take it out and shoot it which he did). But for some reason despite a mountain of evidence that Pits are killers (child killers no less!), there is a never ending stream of people defending them.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:03 am to Salmon
I believe it is on the owners. They make a decision to own a certain dog. That includes being responsible for its actions at all times. In this case it was the owners fault for allowing this to happen. If it is too much trouble to monitor the dog at all times when children are around or if the dog is just not kenneled for whatever reason they should not own the dog. This all seems so simple to me but i have seen so much argument over it. Makes no sense.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:04 am to Salmon
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quote:
I wouldn't allow a 10 month old around the damn neighbor's poodle much less a larger breed dog, EVER.
That's insane.
They're dogs.
oh god
now who is using "emotionalism" instead of reason?
That's as far from an emotional argument as it can be. It's a 10 month old infant and they are dogs, and territorial animals that act within their nature as dogs, often driven by natural pack instincts and the hierarchy that goes with being in a pack, which is how they view life around humans.
That's a rational thought process. Thinking dogs are fuzzy little bunny rabbits or raging beasts is the emotional nonsense.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:05 am to Darth_Vader
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ust pointing out that even a Poodle can attack a kid. B
any dog or cat or animal can attack
the difference the ability to inflict actual harm/death
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:06 am to HunhBruh
So let me ask this before I get into anything, you're trying to compare a pit's ability to over protect and kill vs a lab's ability to be trained to be a police dog?
If so, labs aren't bred for police work like pits are bred to fight. Labs are only used to police because of their intelligence, loyalty and nose. A pit is bred to fight because of it's passion and strength. Labs aren't specifically bred for police work because it's not in their background and does not go back to their ancestors, rather a developed thing imo.
If so, labs aren't bred for police work like pits are bred to fight. Labs are only used to police because of their intelligence, loyalty and nose. A pit is bred to fight because of it's passion and strength. Labs aren't specifically bred for police work because it's not in their background and does not go back to their ancestors, rather a developed thing imo.
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