re: Pictures from days gone by....

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What was the context of the Columbo stills?

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A guy killed a guy and Columbo caught him

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Thank you

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You're welcome

“Uh oh, he’s getting drunk tonight..."



"I hope that doesn’t mean another sadistic beating.”

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Who downvotes a pic of the first flying pig?!

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Same creepy perv who DVed Telly Savalas and Howard Cosell

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Only because it is the most famous combat photograph and arguably the most famous photograph of human beings of all time, the identity of the Marines (and Corpsman?) remains strangely contentious after all these years.

For several years now, it is highly questioned as to whether or not Bradley is in the Rosenthal picture. Now, it cannot be stated strongly enough that these questions do not besmirch the valor or heroism of any of the actual or alleged members of any of these photos and even extending to the military and civilian photographers. All of these men were at great personal risk on Iwo Jima and many were wounded or killed after the 2 main flag raising events.

For his part, Bradley's son, James (the author of Flags of our Fathers), no longer believes Doc Bradley was in the Rosenthal photograph, although you can see him (at least parts of him and his hands) in the Lowery photograph.

Likewise, Gagnon and Hansen were likely not in the Rosenthal picture, either. Ironic that of the 3 famous War Bond tour participants, only Hayes was actually in the Rosenthal photograph.

The best current opinion on the Rosenthal photo is:



1. Block
2. Keller
3. Sousley
4. Strank
5. Schultz
6. Hayes

Only Hayes, Keller and Schultz would survive the battle (Schultz was wounded on Iwo Jima and Keller would be wounded in a later battle).

Bradley is seen in some of the Lowery photos of the first raising. He was also wounded in the battle. Schultz appear to have been involved in raising both flags. Among others seen in the Lowery photos of the first raising or some of the photos/film that capture both flags include Sergeant Henry O. "Hank" Hansen, Gagnon, CPL Charles Lindberg, Platoon Sergeant Ernest "Boots" Thomas, 1LT Harold Schrier, and Radioman Raymond Jacobs. Hansen and Thomas were killed in the battle.

To illustrate just how much the "fog of war" is a thing, this most famous of photographs had 3 of 6 participants misidentified, correcting 1 after 2 years, but the other 2 remained misidentified for over SEVENTY years.

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the identity of the Marines (and Corpsman?) remains strangely contentious after all these years

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I almost mentioned this in the OP. I knew there was a controversy b/c 20 years ago I saw a doc based on

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Bradley's son, James (the author of Flags of our Fathers)

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You're clearly more up to date on the matter than I am. From your info I gather the question of identity still is not completely resolved.

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From your info I gather the question of identity still is not completely resolved.

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The quality of the photo, the loss of actual participants, confusion as to which photo they were talking about, and so forth likely makes any more definitive identification impossible. But with 2 changes in the past 6 years, who knows?

Bradley was heavily questioned because the spot he supposedly held in the Rosenthal photo, that guy had wire cutters and rifle ammo, almost certainly not part of his kit as a corpsman, but would have been common for a USMC rifleman that day. Doc was bumped in 2016.

Gagnon was just bumped in 2019 because they noted a wedding ring on the figure previously identified as him. Keller had married in 1944 and Gagnon did not marry until the War Bond tour after Iwo.

Ultimately, they matched Gagnon to images of the lowering of the first flag (Lowery and/or some of the film) and this did not match his purported figure in the Rosenthal photo. Keller is the best guess for that spot now.

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Look at the style and compare it to the art being made in the Soviet Union around the same time. Very similar. Then think back to your days as a student at LSU and sitting in the corridor of O.K. Allen Hall and seeing the murals on the walls there that were painted around the same time by WPA/CCC artists paid by the US government under the FDR administration. It's very telling.

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A good article on that: LINK

What the frick is going on in the right-hand window?

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Huntington, WV (1939)

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A five year old boy after the liberation of Auschwitz