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re: Phoenix vs Seattle - Pros/Cons of Relocating

Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3820 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:35 pm to
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I said that, and I've lived in Seattle for 8 years without a car


Hitch a ride to go hike, ski? And ride the bus around? Just waiting for Bertha to run for more than a few months without breaking down so they can maybe finish the tunnel before you're dead?

The OP will have a great time enjoying all the outdoor activities he likes to do without a car and paying the rent he can't afford downtown or south lake union...screw it, he can take his chances in the rainier valley area. Or commute from Shoreline, Kenmore, etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:42 pm to
Seattle. Just visit if you've never been. It's the opposite in every way of Phoenix.

I'm not a heat and desert kind of guy.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22073 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:43 pm to
PNW and never look back.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:45 pm to
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is Seattle manageable? I've got 3 dogs to conside


Yes, but not downtown. Seattle is expensive but there are more affordable alternatives not far from downtown
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:46 pm to
Yeah, you could live downtown without a car. Most anywhere else would suck. It's ridiculous that a city like Seattle doesn't have a decent light rail system.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:48 pm to
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Yeah, you could live downtown without a car. Most anywhere else would suck. It's ridiculous that a city like Seattle doesn't have a decent light rail system.


Saw where they are expanding it, but will be many years for most of it
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:52 pm to
They bit off more than they can chew with the tunnel. I'm sure I'll be dead before a citywide light rail system happens.
Posted by 3en
Member since May 2015
507 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:53 pm to
Visited both within the past year and the responses from everyone are pretty accurate aside from the "can't live in Seattle with out a car" statement. Between uber, lyft, and such you have pretty decent public transportation in the monorail, great bus service, and a couple of bike and car share companies like Car2go and the electric BMW one( can't recall the name).

Sports are huge in both towns with PHX having the big 4 majors (and WNBA Ha) and Seattle having MLB, NFL, MLS, WNB, while eying to get the Sonics back and possible an NHL team.

I am surprised with Nurse's rent pricing. You'll pay a bit more in Seattle, BUT the tax free income should help with that.

Now only if Seattle could land a Top Golf….
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 10:57 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:58 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:03 pm to
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Yeah, you could live downtown without a car. Most anywhere else would suck.


I'm in Ballard, and it's been pretty easy. I think it's actually easier in Ballard, Fremont, Cap Hill than it would be to live downtown without a car.
Posted by jfturner212
1176 Bob Pettit Boulevard
Member since Nov 2004
5602 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:03 pm to
Seattle is closed. Move to Phoenix.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Now only if Seattle could land a Top Golf….






There are 2 in PHX metro area. One in Scottsdale and one in the east valley in Gilbert
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:38 pm to
Seattle is part of eco-topia.
You will have access to products and services that eco-utopians demand of the marketplace. food, clothing, transportation.
Its not horribly far to Vancouver Canada and Juneau Alaska.
Seattle Vancouver and Juneau are a piece somehow. knit by Native Americans. I have friends in Seattle, Vancouver BC and some of the islands.



Phoenix = heat you will not believe. Learn Spanish.

This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 11:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:43 pm to
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Seattle Vancouver and Juneau are a piece somehow. knit by Native Americans. I have friends in Seattle, Vancouver BC and some of the islands.


Juneau is basically a suburb or satellite of Seattle 900 miles away.

If you're into the outdoors, don't see how you could go wrong in Seattle though. In addition to the mountains nearby, you also have salt water and plenty of freshwater activities.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:52 pm to
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I'll be dead before a citywide light rail system happens.


Seattle public transportation is actually quite good. The bus system is great in the city and works well for commuters from other cities and adjacent counties. I use the ferry to get to Bainbridge Is., the water taxi for Vashon and light rail to get to UW and the airport. I would like to see light rail expanded east, but that is decades away. I only use my car when hiking outside the city.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

Seattle public transportation is actually quite good

Hmm. I guess we disagree on what constitutes quite good.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:56 pm to
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easier in Ballard, Fremont, Cap Hill than it would be to live downtown without a car


How so? I live in Queen Anne near the Fremont Bridge and work downtown. I do all my in-city travels by bus/light rail.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:01 am to
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Seattle is closed. Move to Phoenix.


sorry I was hyping it up.

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:03 am to
Unless you live in Scottsdale don't come to Phoenix. Scottsdale is amazing and is huge but the rest of the Phoenix Metro area, other than Chandler and Gilbert which are just ok, is a dump. Seattle is beautiful but its as liberal as San Fran and the Seattle Freeze is real. There is PLENTY to do outdoors in both places, Seattle has more water stuff but Scottsdale has more hiking and golf, so I guess it kinda comes down to the kind of people you want to be around. If you want to live around middle-upper class white conservative people choose Scottsdale, if you want to live around millennial liberal tranny Asians you would like Seattle and if you want to be around white trash and Mexicans choose the westside of Phoenix.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 12:04 am to
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I guess we disagree on what constitutes quite good.


Honest question: which cities would you say have significantly better public transportation systems? I grew up in SF, my mom lives in Portland, I have done a lot of business in Atlanta, DC, Houston, etc. so those are my best comparisons. After 33 years in BR, I think any public transportation system looks good!
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