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re: Pfizer CEO: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any

Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:56 pm to
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You appear to not understand to what I'm referring to,


Typical pretentiousness. What kind of widespread testing do you want?

Why would asymptomatic people have any kind of test that shows they had Covid?

The last place a healthy person needs to be is at a doctors office.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:00 pm to
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Yes, but people who aren't being tested in the first place surely aren't also going to randomly get tested for antibodies.



It's not all that random. If you get bloodwork at all this year, you can get your antibodies checked. That would be an easy way to confirm whether you were actually infected. I suspect that many people will think they were infected but were not.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Typical pretentiousness.


Brah, you talk out of your arse about multiple things. You should definitely learn to shut up.

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Why would asymptomatic people have any kind of test that shows they had Covid?

The last place a healthy person needs to be is at a doctors office.



You can get it with bloodwork. I'm saying, if people think they were infected but were asymptomatic, they can get the antibody panel included in their regular bloodwork, which most people over 30 should get twice a year. Then at least they could put their money where their mouth is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:05 pm to
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You can get it with bloodwork. I'm saying, if people think they were infected but were asymptomatic


Why would people who are asymptomatic think they need to be tested? Are you stupid enough to think most of these people are randomly going to get tested for antibodies?

Goddamn you have absolutely no common sense at all dude.

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Then at least they could put their money where their mouth is.


What makes you think asymptomatic people are complaining?

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You should definitely learn to shut up.


Sounds like you don't have the ability to carry a conversation outside of some textbook.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58672 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:09 pm to
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regular bloodwork, which most people over 30 should get twice a year.

No thanks
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1712 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:10 pm to
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I suspect that many people will think they were infected but were not.


I suspect that if we created a broad scale study where we tested for antibodies on people who have never had a Covid test, the numbers would be high based on my own anecdotal evidence.

Considering the number of people who were surprised they even had Covid (after a screening test), it stands to reason that many more who never tested in the first place actually had it, as well. Why would people who don't participate in random screenings be less likely to have Covid?

Let's just agree to disagree since we're both just "suspecting" our preferred outcome.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:11 pm to
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regular bloodwork, which most people over 30 should get twice a year.
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No thanks


Yeah, healthy people in their 20s and 30's are randomly going twice a year to get blood work done.

The last place healthy people should be is in a medical setting where our "heroes" are exposed to death every day (according to nurses.)

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Why would people who are asymptomatic think they need to be tested? Are you stupid enough to think most of these people are randomly going to get tested for antibodies?



Multiple people asked in clinic. Guess what most of the results showed? Do you know better than them too? Are you going to lecture them about 'common sense' as well? I honestly can't wait to hear it.

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What makes you think asymptomatic people are complaining?



You people are the ones who are suggesting that asymptomatic numbers are underestimated. I told you I didn't see evidence for that, but you didn't even ask for the evidence I actually had, did you?

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Sounds like you don't have the ability to carry a conversation outside of some textbook.



Yeah, I definitely know my shite and would prefer to talk to others who do too.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Yeah, healthy people in their 20s and 30's are randomly going twice a year to get blood work done.



Man, you really don't know anything about medicine at all. Where do you get the confidence from? Is it from being completely unable to incorporate any information at all? It's amazing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Multiple people asked in clinic.


Yes, I am sure those few people you had are representative of young, healthy population in general.

Nothing like good ole antecdotes to prove your point.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22113 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Yeah, healthy people in their 20s and 30's are randomly going twice a year to get blood work done


They absolutely should be. But by me saying that, you'll twist it into "you want the government to force everyone to get blood work." So I guess there's no winning.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Yeah, I definitely know my shite


Medical, but youre clueless when it comes to common knowledge.

You think masses are taking antibody tests
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22113 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Nothing like good ole antecdotes to prove your point


Your entire argument is totally unprovable anecdotes you dipshit
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Let's just agree to disagree since we're both just "suspecting" our preferred outcome.



In clinic, the number of people who claimed infection and didn't have antibodies was far greater than the inverse. But you can believe what you want to believe.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Yeah, healthy people in their 20s and 30's are randomly going twice a year to get blood work done
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They absolutely should be

They aren't.

You didn't either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:16 pm to
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Your entire argument is totally unprovable anecdotes you dipshit


Show me two, Gomer.


You cultists really get your feelings hurt when called out.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:17 pm to
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Medical, but youre clueless when it comes to common knowledge.


Nah, there are several fields where I have a ton of knowledge.

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You think masses are taking antibody tests



You understand it is just a little box that you can check on a lab slip? Many patients checked it themselves once they found out it was covered. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24759 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:17 pm to
I have learned a few things during all of this. One thing that stands out from my visits to multiple forum sites is the arrogance of doctors. Most seem to affirm the stereotype quite strongly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:17 pm to
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You think masses are taking antibody tests

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You understand it is just a little box that you can check on a lab slip?


Absolutely. And healthy young people aren't getting labs twice a year for no real reason.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297045 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Most seem to affirm the stereotype quite strongly.


Because they know only medicine. They don't understand the rest of our lives.
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