- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: People who think torturing terrorists is wrong..
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:51 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:51 pm to AlbertMeansWell
quote:
You can't convince me that torture doesn't work.
Unless we tortured you, which is kind of the point.
0
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:52 pm to fr33manator
I was being a lil sarcastic lol
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:53 pm to AlbertMeansWell
I feel no sympathy for terrorist or any of their kind. Torture them for the info and then put a 21 cent piece of lead in their skull.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:53 pm to AlbertMeansWell
This Spymasters documentary came on showtime tonight? I'm looking for it but I can't find it.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:53 pm to BabyTac
quote:
So basically you're saying it's ok to lower yourself to the level of an anti-Christ, give up your faith, and take matters into your own hands while conducting yourself with lack of self control, hate, and destruction?
Look at history. You know who wins? Men who aren't afraid to be brutal and ruthless.
Men that swept across continents and built empires on the backs of millions of dead. Men that would raze cities to the ground and slaughter any that resisted to a man.
Show me an empire of sissies who played by the rules and didn't get their hands dirty.
There aren't any.
And those who became soft were wiped out by men who were hard.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:54 pm to ATCKyle87
quote:
No American has ever been tortured in any war we have fought though
May want to get a history book out. British prison ships, Andersonville, the Japanese in WWII, the Vietnamese
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:55 pm to Walt OReilly
quote:
This Spymasters documentary came on showtime tonight? I'm looking for it but I can't find it.
Last night. It's from 2015. Might be on Youtube or Showtime on Demand
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:57 pm to AlbertMeansWell
That is actually a really good documentary with very good interviews.
That being said, I'd torture a terrorist if I got a pass. I wouldn't even care if he had valuable info. I could check that off of my bucket list, so that's a net positive
That being said, I'd torture a terrorist if I got a pass. I wouldn't even care if he had valuable info. I could check that off of my bucket list, so that's a net positive
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:57 pm to fr33manator
quote:
ook at history. You know who wins? Men who aren't afraid to be brutal and ruthless.
Men that swept across continents and built empires on the backs of millions of dead. Men that would raze cities to the ground and slaughter any that resisted to a man.
Show me an empire of sissies who played by the rules and didn't get their hands dirty.
There aren't any.
And those who became soft were wiped out by men who were hard.
Well, until you go too far and the whole world views you as evil... like hitler and stalin for example.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:01 pm to AlbertMeansWell
quote:
You can't convince me that torture doesn't work.
Meh. I have some small area of professional experience in this arena and traditional "torture" methods do not work, largely. The techniques may be useful in some limited circumstances to reduce resistance in a subject or even to accomplish the initial break.
But, the "rough" measures approved and publicized, up to and including waterboarding do not constitute torture, IMHO.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:02 pm to NATidefan
quote:
Well, until you go too far and the whole world views you as evil... like hitler and stalin for example.
And who stopped Stalin, exactly?
Hitler gets WAY too much credit. He was a mid major compared to some others in history. The only reason the death tolls were so high was modern tech making killing more efficient.
Look at the damn Mongols. They were slaughtering millions with Iron Age tech.
Killing cities with swords. By hand.
History views hitler as God tier maniac because he's relatively fresh. You give the Mongols or the Huns modern tech and they make him look like a mean little kid burning ants.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:04 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Torture works but the subject will say anything to get the interrogation to stop, so you are left with mounds of raw intel that has to be verified. In most cases the return on investment is negligible.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:05 pm to terd ferguson
quote:
You mean like when they chop off someone's head with a machete and post the video on the interwebs?
Exactly. In order to be rationally consistent you have to think that there is nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:05 pm to AlbertMeansWell
quote:
You can't convince me that torture doesn't work
well, then why would anyone try to convince someone who is close minded
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:06 pm to fr33manator
quote:
Look at the damn Mongols. They were slaughtering millions with Iron Age tech.
yeah, but you don't think the world would frown upon them and unite against them in this day and age? tv, communication, social media, etc has come along way since then.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:07 pm to Ace Midnight
A vast knowledge of psychology is required to get info from torture, and levels are different for each individual. It is such a fine line that is constantly moving, it can only be done properly by experts
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:07 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Torturing anyone for any reason is wrong. Why anyone would trust the gov't or the military to do this judiciously?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:10 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
the "rough" measures approved and publicized, up to and including waterboarding do not constitute torture, IMHO.
I always gave a little knowing wave to the HVTs we put on the aircraft headed to Romania.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:10 pm to NATidefan
quote:
yeah, but you don't think the world would frown upon them and unite against them in this day and age? tv, communication, social media, etc has come along way since then.
They had the will to do what they did. With modern weaponry...I don't know if anything stops them. Although it does change things. Firearms are a great equalizer. They were unmatched with bows and on horseback.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:10 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:
Torturing anyone for any reason is wrong
I really don't care if it's right or wrong, but I don't think it moves anything in the right direction. just creates more enemies.
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News