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re: PE exam Friday 4-11-14
Posted on 4/7/14 at 2:52 pm to lsu777
Posted on 4/7/14 at 2:52 pm to lsu777
quote:
No its not computer based until next year. And starting in September you will be able to take the pe once you graduate and pass fe. No more waiting to take the test but you still have to wait the time to get the license.
I called LAPELS today to look into this and as of today you can not take the exam unless you have 3 yrs 4 months of experience as of the registration date. According to them they have just started talking about the change and have not made an official ruling.
I guess this will not include the October 2014 exam and the earliest exam that you could take after this change would be Spring 2015. Just an FYI.
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 2:53 pm to djangochained
if you haven't prepared for the last 2 months at least, you're fricked.
it is not a test you cram for....
it is not a test you cram for....
Posted on 4/7/14 at 2:56 pm to lsu777
quote:
No its not computer based until next year. And starting in September you will be able to take the pe once you graduate and pass fe. No more waiting to take the test but you still have to wait the time to get the license.
similar to the CPA format in taking/passing then waiting. You are actually way more prepared for that test immediately following graduation.
BUT, its going to be a while before that new angle is in practice.......its going to be years before that happens.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 2:59 pm to CE Tiger
quote:It's a marvelous idea. The PE is a glorified FE exam, anyway. Why not take it when the information is still fresh from college courses? Especially if you still have to wait the 4 years of experience, which I'm sure you have to prove like before.quote:
And starting in September you will be able to take the pe once you graduate and pass fe. No more waiting to take the test but you still have to wait the time to get the license.quote:this is a terrible idea.
This is awesome
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:02 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
quote:
well when you use an abbreviation that has many ambiguous meanings, you're going to cause confusion
Nah. I knew immediately what he was talking about.. as did anyone he was targeting.
To OP, good luck. I will be eligible to take it next April.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:05 pm to The Sad Banana
I think it's a more accurate measure to make sure you still know the basic principles and practices after being away from college for 4 years
Taking it fresh out of school is a silly idea IMO
Taking it fresh out of school is a silly idea IMO
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:14 pm to djangochained
Don't bother cramming. Tab you reference books and go through practice problems so you cab easily find them. I brought in 3 books and only used the "engineering unit conversions" and "environmental engineering reference manual" except for one problem. At this point you either know it or you don't. The practice problems I worked were basically worthless as was the practice test I bought from ncees. Studied maybe 10 hrs. The test was mainly knowing how to manipulate units to multiply the right information they gave you. Good luck. The hardest part is concentrating for 8 hrs.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:17 pm to Croacka
My afternoon test was basically my tests from Wolshon's transportation courses and problems from the back of the Highway Capacity Manual. I haven't done any of that crap since I started, not by hand anyway.
I'm not a big fan of tests like this in the first place, so I'm biased.
I'm not a big fan of tests like this in the first place, so I'm biased.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:17 pm to Croacka
a student fresh from the FE would have to at least take a testmaster's course before the PE. the material is completely different, and really only the morning session resembles what you learn in school. i just don't see them doing well at all in the afternoon with only college courses behind them.
quote:well crap, nevermind
My afternoon test was basically my tests from Wolshon's transportation courses and problems from the back of the Highway Capacity Manual
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:20 pm to link
Now, that's transportation...which isn't as involved as a structures afternoon exam. But IMO if you can sit the exam say a year out of passing the FE and pass, then you deserve to not have to worry about that test for the rest of your life.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:20 pm to link
I will add that the Env test is broken up in morning/afternoon with the morning being all water/wastewater and solid waste and the afternoon being air, EHS, and eng eco for the most part. Not sure that helps anyone, but it's an interesting tidbit.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:34 pm to Drew Orleans
All I can tell you guys is to get the NCEES practice problems. They look EXACTLY like the test
The reference manual practice problems are way more complex than the actual test.
The reference manual practice problems are way more complex than the actual test.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:37 pm to Croacka
quote:
All I can tell you guys is to get the NCEES practice problems. They look EXACTLY like the test
I can tell you with 100% certainty with the Environmental PE exam this is not the case. No a single one of the NCEES practice problems was similar to a single problem on the test. I was blown away by this. Not sure how they even managed to do it, but it was a huge disappointment/frustration. I have been told by CE's and EE's that the NCEES practice problems are similar, but for EnvE it is not.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:38 pm to The Last Coco
I took the structural exam and while there were no identical problems, the difficulty and complexity of the problems was spot on
Eta: civil-structural, not SE
Eta: civil-structural, not SE
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:42 pm to Drew Orleans
Just know you will need 4 years of engineering related experience, so it doesn't change that much, timeline wise
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:42 pm to CE Tiger
quote:
there's something to be said about passing a test 4 years out of college. i just think it cheapens it to be able to take it after the fe
Exactly! The expereince part of the real world equation is now null and void. Terrible idea.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:43 pm to Croacka
quote:THIS
The reference manual practice problems are way more complex than the actual test.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:43 pm to Croacka
quote:
Croacka
I agree that it was on par difficulty wise, but concepts they tested for were totally different. probably 40% of the practice problems centered around one major concept/conversion that wasn't asked on the real exam. It was quite astonishing. It was the only concept I put any real effort into learning and it wasn't there. The Env Eng Reference Manual and the Engineering Unit Conversions books were a God-send and I now use them frequently in my day to day job. If I didn't know a problem, I just indexed it in the reference manual and most of the time could figure out how to work the problem.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:45 pm to djangochained
I hear the final is going to be a dodgeball game.
Just remember the 5 D's of Dodgeball:
1. Dodge
2. Duck
3. Dip
4. Dive
5. Dodge
Just remember the 5 D's of Dodgeball:
1. Dodge
2. Duck
3. Dip
4. Dive
5. Dodge
Posted on 4/7/14 at 3:46 pm to Drew Orleans
Be sure to keep contact info with every employer you have until you get your PE
That application can be a pain in the arse.
The go ahead and repeat the process when you want to register in another state
That application can be a pain in the arse.
The go ahead and repeat the process when you want to register in another state
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