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OT’s thoughts on volunteer workers at huge hospitals
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:44 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:44 am
It’s amazing how many staff members are volunteers considering the hospital is making bank. I can understand the volunteers are retirees and gives them something to do and a feeling of worth and care etc.
It feels like a hold-over from days gone by and modern day hospitals take advantage of and benefit greatly from it. (I know a lot of small community hospitals struggle, I’m talking about big conglomerates making billions). And they’re performing administrative duties not just welcoming and making people happy. Im with my wife this morning for minor procedure and we’ve had volunteers at welcome desk, the intake office doing insurance paperwork etc, the check in at cath lab etc (as well as the normal patient transport and gift shop workers)
It feels like a hold-over from days gone by and modern day hospitals take advantage of and benefit greatly from it. (I know a lot of small community hospitals struggle, I’m talking about big conglomerates making billions). And they’re performing administrative duties not just welcoming and making people happy. Im with my wife this morning for minor procedure and we’ve had volunteers at welcome desk, the intake office doing insurance paperwork etc, the check in at cath lab etc (as well as the normal patient transport and gift shop workers)
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:44 am to The Mick
It’s up there with fundraisers at daycares.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:47 am to The Mick
They have to get their community service hours somehow.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:50 am to The Mick
You answered your own question.
Second ALL hospitals are for profit. The only difference is what-u-call non for profits do not pay property taxes.
I remember when St Francis/Vantage bought out HCA North Monroe. All the local politicians were on the news jumping for joy like they had just slayed a big beast. Then a year later there is a million dollars deficit and everyone is screaming and crying because St Francis doesn't have to pay property taxes. All the above politicians were running around with their fingers up there noses trying to scream. Bunch of idiots.
Second ALL hospitals are for profit. The only difference is what-u-call non for profits do not pay property taxes.
I remember when St Francis/Vantage bought out HCA North Monroe. All the local politicians were on the news jumping for joy like they had just slayed a big beast. Then a year later there is a million dollars deficit and everyone is screaming and crying because St Francis doesn't have to pay property taxes. All the above politicians were running around with their fingers up there noses trying to scream. Bunch of idiots.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:51 am to The Mick
What hospital?
I work for a not for profit, except at the welcome desk, I've never seen volunteers doing those duties...
I work for a not for profit, except at the welcome desk, I've never seen volunteers doing those duties...
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:52 am to jeffsdad
AND if non-profits were managed HALF as efficiently as for-profits, AND obeyed federal regulations regarding medical necessity, they wouldn't be consistently "losing" money.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:53 am to Hangover Haven
St Tammany
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:54 am to The Mick
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It’s amazing how many staff members are volunteers considering the hospital is making bank.
I'm curious as to which hospitals you are referencing. Majority of hospitals are non-profit. Very few for-profit health systems throughout the US.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:56 am to The Mick
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St Tammany
Sure it's a for-profit..?
Mission Statement..
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To serve the individuals and community of western St. Tammany Parish and surrounding areas as a not-for-profit hospital by providing integrated healthcare services such as education and prevention, a full range of diagnostic services, and both inpatient and outpatient care, all of which help to ensure continued good health.
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The St. Tammany Hospital Foundation, a 501 (c) (3) non-profit organization, was established to sustain the healing work of the physicians and staff of St. Tammany Parish Hospital. Through the development of philanthropic support, the Foundation seeks to fortify the promise to provide world-class healthcare…close to home, now and for generations to come.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 9:02 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:57 am to Areddishfish
More than you think.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:59 am to Areddishfish
More than you think. Roughly 18%, which I believe, is much less than 5 years ago.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:01 am to Hangover Haven
Maybe I misspoke about for profit but regardless of its tax designation they’re making a ton. Ochsner is nonprofit and does over 7 Bill a year in revenue and 80’ish Mill in profit and those figures are a few years old. My point is they’re not a small town clinic that relies on volunteers, they take advantage of the situation.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:06 am to The Mick
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Maybe I misspoke about for profit but regardless of its tax designation they’re making a ton. Ochsner is nonprofit and does over 7 Bill a year in revenue and 80’ish Mill in profit and those figures are a few years old. My point is they’re not a small town clinic that relies on volunteers, they take advantage of the situation.
You see the money Ochsner is putting back into their system? It's crazy....
As much as I'm not crazy about Ochsner, they're doing some serious expanding and updating..
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:08 am to Hangover Haven
They just don't pay taxes. They are all about profit.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:13 am to LSUBoo
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They have to get their community service hours somehow.
You never know when you will be charged for faking a hate crime?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:13 am to The Mick
My wife volunteered at a large hospital that was acquired by a larger hospital during her time. The larger hospital immediately started cutting expenses, including the full-time 'volunteer coordinator'.
It became a bit of a mess. Coffee pots and general kitchen areas were not cleaned in multiple days. The volunteers had no idea what they were supposed to do and the hospital workers were even more clueless.
I can see why people would want to volunteer at hospitals but the actual hospitals seemed to not care about the ginormous benefit they were getting (free labor).
It became a bit of a mess. Coffee pots and general kitchen areas were not cleaned in multiple days. The volunteers had no idea what they were supposed to do and the hospital workers were even more clueless.
I can see why people would want to volunteer at hospitals but the actual hospitals seemed to not care about the ginormous benefit they were getting (free labor).
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:18 am to tigeralum06
They do not pay property taxes, which gives them a big advantage. The BIGGER advantage they have to they get to disregard medical necessity laws. They pretend to abide by them by doing medical necessity on the back end, which in itself is illegal, BUT since they are "non profit" the federal government ignores it because they are not attempting to make more money.
The bottom line is since the non-profits can ignore medical necessity laws, they spend around 30% more in unnecessary testing than the for-profits, WHICH costs the taxpayers and insurance companies a fortune. But no one cares, they are non-profits.
The bottom line is since the non-profits can ignore medical necessity laws, they spend around 30% more in unnecessary testing than the for-profits, WHICH costs the taxpayers and insurance companies a fortune. But no one cares, they are non-profits.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:40 am to The Mick
I live in Colorado. The non-profits here are building free standing emergency departments in front of their competition's hospitals, sponsoring the Broncos, paying Payton Manning as a spokesperson, advertising everywhere in the most expensive forums but they do not accept Medicaid referrals from my family medicine clinics. They are tax free to allow them to serve the community, to treat the poor and to conduct research yet they are not focused on this. Tax exempt status should be revoked for these companies.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:10 am to TigerFlask
Property tax exemption should be revoked on all "non-profit" hospitals. Let them include it in their bills and we will see truely non-profit hospitals. That and force them to abide by medical necessity laws.
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