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OT Electrician Baws - Help me wire this

Posted on 6/17/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted by CBLSU316
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 2:06 pm
Just bought two remote control ceiling fans to go on my patio, the switches inside are independent, one for fan one for light.

There were just two lights out here before and here are the wires available

Light location #1 - two black, two red, two white and one bare wire.

Light Location #2 - one black, one red, one white and one bare.

Fan receiver has one white (AC in N) and one black wire (AC in L) on input and a black (to motor L), white (to motor in) and blue (for light) on output.

How do I wire this to work correctly with switch and remote. I think I know how to do it but I only want to it once so I don’t get pissed and smash these into a million pieces

ETA: when I took the lights down white from the fixture was connected to the white in the ceiling and the black from the fixture was connected to the red wires in the ceiling and the black wires in the ceiling were capped.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by LZ83
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 2:07 pm to
I’m not being a smart arse. Try YouTube
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:05 pm to
Black and Red are Hot, but you need to see how the inside switches are wired. You need to swap over to split the wires to a three way switch. Take a picture of what you have there and post it. White is a ground along with the bare wire. The Bare wire hooks up to the green wire/ ground on the fan.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Just bought two remote control ceiling fans to go on my patio, the switches inside are independent, one for fan one for light.

There were just two lights out here before and here are the wires available


This doesn't make sense unless it was pre-wired for fans with lights. I hope you have a tester to see what is hot and what is not when when one switch is on and one is off.
Posted by Tactical Insertion
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

This doesn't make sense unless it was pre-wired for fans with lights. I hope you have a tester to see what is hot and what is not when when one switch is on and one is off.


This for sure.
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11436 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:18 pm to
It was pre-wires for fans
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

White is a ground along with the bare wire. The Bare wire hooks up to the green wire/ ground on the fan.


White is hot

He doesn't have a green wire on the fan. Blue is his ground on the fan.

I would imagine that the red wire is his hot for the lights but there is no way to know without testing it.

He'd be better off to call someone if he doesn't feel comfortable.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:21 pm to
OK, so it sounds like they prewired for 2 fans with lights with one switch controlling both lights and one switch controlling both fans.
If you have two separate fan remote controls I would separate each fixture from the other.
Tie the white(N) to the whites in each box and the black(L) into the red in one box and the black in the other. Then tie the load side color to color in each box.
Remember, most remotes come with the pins factory set to the same frequency so you'll have to change one so they operate separately.
I know, long, good luck.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:22 pm to
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Blue is his ground on the fan.


Posted by ByteMe
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:23 pm to



Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:23 pm to
He said he doesn't have a green wire on the fan or,a bare wire
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

He said he doesn't have a green wire on the fan or,a bare wire



Then he needs to take it back for not having a ground. The blue wire is always for the light kit.
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Just bought two remote control ceiling fans to go on my patio, the switches inside are independent, one for fan one for light.



So you have had an extra switch on the wall that hasn't ever been used for anything? This could be a good thing, and your switch for the black wires that were capped.

Posted by HunterGomez
B.R., LA
Member since Sep 2004
1709 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 4:38 pm to
You tube how to

The box with 2 red and two black is a feed through, so you’ll need to wire nut black to black and then to your black on your remote device. The reds are for the second switch(you determine which switch on your wall you’d like to use) so you can really use either the red or the black as your hot.

Wire nut and electrical tape up the wire for the switch you choose not to use.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 5:11 pm to
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The blue wire is always for the light kit.


This 100%. Green is always a ground.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 6/17/18 at 6:33 pm to
No photos, so we know what the hell you're talking about?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

ETA: when I took the lights down white from the fixture was connected to the white in the ceiling and the black from the fixture was connected to the red wires in the ceiling and the black wires in the ceiling were capped.


It's wired for white is hot because it was wired for 110 lights. All the other shite was capped.

quote:

Then he needs to take it back for not having a ground. The blue wire is always for the light kit.


No, he has a ground. He just doesn't understand that it looks like a small Chinese finger coming off the ceiling fan.

This is why real schematics don't have color codes. He needs to test all of it. Two black wires? which one is which for the fan or the lights?

Would have been nice if whomever wired it had labeled it.

Blue is always the light? Until they run out of blue wire and use something else.

Again, this is the reason schematics don't have color coded wires.
Posted by CBLSU316
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Member since Jun 2008
11436 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:26 pm to
It had a ground, just assumed that was a given.

I ended up just hooking it to one switch, so you flip the switch and the unit has power, then you can just control it with the remote basically.
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