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re: OT attorneys, how would YOU fix court system?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:23 am to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:23 am to Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:23 am to Mr. Hangover
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. we can't punish people accordingly because we are too scared of hurting a criminal's feelings
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:23 am to BobCoot
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Community property would be eradicated , alimony and child support would be capped at a max amount of $500 per month and child custody would default to joint physical custody
you know this is one area that i've thought about doing some PAC work in
our system here in LA was constructed in literally a different social era and has major real world insanity today. the real meat would be both types of spousal support and custody, with a minor emphasis on community property. child support is basically assigned via the feds now so you can't really frick with it
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:25 am to Tornado Alley
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Rarely have I seen it done, nor have I enforced it myself
i think the state OoJ we have is kind of toothless
receiving them is rare and having them enforced is almost unheard of from what i've been told
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:25 am to Mr. Hangover
Criminals get out because cops and prosecutors frick up
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:26 am to NIH
or because they bail out and haven't been convicted yet
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Bad plea deals are a very real thing
Mostly due to ridiculous case loads
Mostly due to ridiculous case loads
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:27 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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A substantial portion of the docket in every criminal courtroom in the country day in and day out is guys in trouble for weed. It's stupid, wasteful, and fosters disrespect for the entire system. We need to decriminalize marijuana if we are ever going to fix the criminal justice system in this country. And I say that as somebody who hates lazy, no self respect having pot heads more than most.
All right. And then when the next drug to take its place becomes something like cocaine, then we should legalize that too because it'll be clogging up the legal system. Then heroine.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:29 am to NIH
in my mental mumblings about fixing our system here i wanted to create different docket tracks
1st is the violent crime track, possibly with another tier based on severity. so like LWOP or worse gets its own track with the highest priority. less serious VCs get 2nd preference
then the 2nd track involves property crimes. theft, fraud, burglary, etc. they get 2nd priority
then you have a drug track and a MISC track with the lowest priority
1st is the violent crime track, possibly with another tier based on severity. so like LWOP or worse gets its own track with the highest priority. less serious VCs get 2nd preference
then the 2nd track involves property crimes. theft, fraud, burglary, etc. they get 2nd priority
then you have a drug track and a MISC track with the lowest priority
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:31 am to shotcaller1
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And then when the next drug to take its place becomes something like cocaine, then we should legalize that too because it'll be clogging up the legal system.
i don't give a shite about cocaine, either (and you shouldn't, either)
drugs that really frick up lives: prescription pills, heroin, and meth
the rest are just ambient noise in the larger problem with lots of moral panics thrown in
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
That makes a lot of sense, so it'll never happen. 
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:31 am to shotcaller1
Not everyone who smokes weed will start doing coke or heroin. Criminalization of weed leads to people clogging up the court system wih stupid, low level petty crimes. It's wasteful. It's stupid.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:32 am to NIH
tons of times you have like some drug case #1 on the priority list b/c it's old and then a manslaughter and 2nd degree murder 2/3. and then the drug case pleas at the 11th hour and the other 2 can't go b/c they were told the drug case was going. madness, bro. you lose the whole trial week and the violent crimes bump everything down on the next docket
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:35 am to Wtodd
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If the DA withholds evidence from the defense or lies during any proceeding or any other bullshite, I'd make the DA spend time in jail; equivalent to the time the perp would have spent in jail.
Read up on discovery and inspection, the Brady Rule and what exculpatory evidence is. Most of the time criminals are so stupid, there's no need to hide or make up anything.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:36 am to SamuelClemens
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OT attorneys, how would YOU fix court system?
You're asking attorneys how to fix the problem they created?
Our legal system is more about making money for attorneys than justice. Why do you think we have a billion laws and regulations and everything needs a warning label on it?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:42 am to dbeck
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Our legal system is more about making money for attorneys than justice. Why do you think we have a billion laws and regulations and everything needs a warning label on it?
Warning labels. The horror.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
The dockets in small town LA where I worked were a complete shite show. I can't imagine what Orleans or EBR looks like.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:44 am to BobCoot
I was asking a question dickface
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:46 am to Wtodd
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If the DA withholds evidence from the defense or lies during any proceeding or any other bullshite, I'd make the DA spend time in jail; equivalent to the time the perp would have spent in jail.
This. The penalty right now is that he can be disbarred, most often it's just retirement or a warning.
It's no where near fair as it stands now. One innocent person spends years behind bars while the other loses his job.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:50 am to Bagger Joe
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there's no need to hide or make up anything.
You must not be very familiar with how all of this works.
Prosecutors build careers on convictions. If their convictions come into question, the public starts asking questions. That's why all too often you see prosecutors fighting cases where the prosecution clearly messed up. The exception is where the original prosecutor has either died or moved on and the new DA/ADA has nothing to lose by setting the record straight.
As it stands now DA's have nothing to gain and everything to lose by giving away either past convictions or current ones by handing over exculpatory evidence.
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