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re: Optometry: LA HB 1065/SB 568: What if your Louisiana Eye Surgeon is NOT an MD?

Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:47 pm to
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:47 pm to
Dang that sounds like a surgery.....
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:48 pm to
Now where do you get training in a procedure that's not legal in 48 states?
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:48 pm to
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Presumably they will receive comparable training in those procedures.


There's nothing in the bill requiring this training. Put that in the bill, and I'll listen.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:49 pm to


Senate votes it down. Watch..
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:52 pm to
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Now how's a trabeculoplasty work?


The laser is aimed through a gonio prism at the angle and a series of laser spots are shot into the trabecular mesh work for either 180 or 360 degrees depending on the surgeon's preference.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:52 pm to
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There's nothing in the bill requiring this training. Put that in the bill, and I'll listen.


So they're going to go in cold and ruin people's sight left and right, and the answer to that is legislation spelling out what their training should be, just like everything in "real" medicine and surgery.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:53 pm to
Your green man has nystagmus
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:54 pm to
Let's get predictions on the Senate vote

Imma say 23 NO, 12 yes, 4 abstain
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Stringer Bell
The Towers
Member since May 2014
658 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:59 pm to
You so scared of losing money. If you are good, this shouldnt matter to you Dr Apu.
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
The Golf Board Godfather
Member since Apr 2010
13637 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:01 am to
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Let's get predictions on the Senate vote


Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:04 am to
I don't know if they'll "go in cold" or not. They can if they want. My big issue with this is the oversight. Put this under the medical board, and I'm really not terribly opposed. I'd still rather it not pass, but I'm not going to get excited about it.

And the answer to an OD who goes in cold and ruins someone's eyesight should be a review by the medical board, just like an MD would be subjected to for the same procedure. The ODs want to eat their cake and have it to.
Posted by oilmanNO
Member since Oct 2009
2873 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:05 am to
But but but.... He cares about the kids man
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:05 am to
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Let's get predictions on the Senate vote


Something close to the opposite of what you posted. 24-10 for with some abstentions.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:07 am to
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You so scared of losing money.


I think it's funny that the MDs are being attacked for their greed when the sole reason ODs have proposed this bill is to increase their revenue stream.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:12 am to
I don't see that happening because they would get sued into oblivion and wouldn't be able to get insurance, loans to buy their own equipment, or obtain privileges in facilities that have the equipment.
Posted by Stringer Bell
The Towers
Member since May 2014
658 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:13 am to
Got proof? MDs are fo sho greedy. Look at all the ones who push a pharma drug patients dont need. Far worse imo.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 12:16 am
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:16 am to
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I think it's funny that the MDs are being attacked for their greed when the sole reason ODs have proposed this bill is to increase their revenue stream.


What do you care if someone wants to make more money? How un-American! Thanks to Zenni and the rest, they can't rely so much on dispensing overpriced glasses anymore. Serious question: Is that part of it?
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14874 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:17 am to
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I think it's funny that the MDs are being attacked for their greed when the sole reason ODs have proposed this bill is to increase their revenue stream.


I think you have it all wrong D. These Optometrists just want to help more people in all the rural areas. Why are you so opposed to me getting my groceries, some underwear and an eye surgery at Walmart brah?
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:18 am to
All of what you stated is a big reason I'm not too concerned with ODs trying to compete with MDs. I'm not sure how they're going to get malpractice insurance when they've only had a weekend course worth of training, and I don't see them spending $40,000 up front on a laser to do the procedures they are asking for.

In the long run, this could actually benefit both groups if they'd work together. I could hire an optometrist and personally train him/her to do some of these procedures, then have the OD doing those while I focus on the surgery I like to do. It would be a win-win.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22628 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:20 am to
Bill is suppose to be about access to care. I don't think ODs are going into this with the idea that they are going to get rich off doing a few YAGs and chalazion removals.
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