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re: Optometry: LA HB 1065/SB 568: What if your Louisiana Eye Surgeon is NOT an MD?

Posted on 5/20/14 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by snackpack
Member since Dec 2005
3161 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 3:45 pm to
are they voting today? whats the word
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10081 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 3:51 pm to
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are they voting today? whats the word



Wants to operate on your eyes....




Can't use his own to read...
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Take some emergency room call at 2am if you really wanna help. Don't just cherry pick the easy things.

what "easy things" does this refer to?
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:25 pm to
Just wait till some cowboy OD takes on patients/cases he isn't qualified to treat/perform. Between malpractice premiums rising, MD/DO smear campaigns, and a public outcry for legislative changes this bill will be reversed quickly.

Blind Eye will give his "I'm qualified and I'm not a cowboy spiel" but it won't stop some of his colleagues from ruining it for all of them. This all will be but a blip on the radar as far as eye care is concerned. Unfortunately someone is going to get unnecessarily hurt.
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
3129 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:28 pm to
That is insane.

I have X-linked Retinoschisis (it's very rare) and only go to UAB for my important check-up's .

For glasses/contacts Wal-Mart is fine, but I would shite a brick if I had a retinal detachment and found out my eye surgeon wasn't an MD.

I have a regular local "eye doctor" and a Retinal specialist at the eye foundation @ UAB.

I hope this does not pass in Louisiana.

Support the Foundation Fighting Blindness!



This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:34 pm to
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Between malpractice premiums rising, MD/DO smear campaigns, and a public outcry for legislative changes

has that stuff happened in oklahoma and kentucky?
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22631 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:36 pm to
I'd shite a brick too. Hell, I'd shite a brick if I found out a general ophthalmologist and not a fellowship trained, retinal surgeon was doing my retinal surgery.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4886 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:36 pm to
Can't people chose if the want an MD or OD?
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
185 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:51 pm to
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I'd shite a brick too. Hell, I'd shite a brick if I found out a general ophthalmologist and not a fellowship trained, retinal surgeon was doing my retinal surgery.
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the difference here is.... the general ophthalmologist wouldn't try to do something he wasn't trained or qualified to do
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
3129 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:51 pm to
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I'd shite a brick too. Hell, I'd shite a brick if I found out a general ophthalmologist and not a fellowship trained, retinal surgeon was doing my retinal surgery.



One thing bad about a rare eye disease, is having the young fellowship doctors at a research hospital checking you out.

It's like you're a zoo animal, but I understand why it's important.

Are you a doctor?



Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:23 pm to
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For glasses/contacts Wal-Mart is fine, but I would shite a brick if I had a retinal detachment and found out my eye surgeon wasn't an MD.


Please read the bill. It doesn't give ODs the ability to perform this kind of surgery. And they won't fight for this in the future, either. They want very minimalistly invasive stuff, and, according to my old optometrist who is big into pushing this legislation and has had talks about it with me before, there isn't any desire to push toward cataract or retinal surgery or anything through the full thickness of the eye. The real problem most (at least I) have with the bill is designing a two-tier system with potentially more-poorly trained professionals performing procedures than the other group, which has been performing them for years and has a set of standards that work quite well.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22631 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:25 pm to
I've never met an optometrist who claims they are qualified/trained to do retinal surgery. Have you?
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:32 pm to
Nah the bill just allows blowing a hole in the eye with a laser....
Noninvasive?
Posted by jamarkus
Nola
Member since Oct 2007
185 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:36 pm to
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:I've never met an optometrist who claims they are qualified/trained to do retinal surgery. Have you?
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nah, "just" glaucoma surgery. They're all hanging out at the Capital instead of in med school.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78178 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:41 pm to
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Did you not know what kind of profession you were going into? If you wanted to perform surgery why didn't you go to medical school


Yes they knew. They also knew they either couldn't get into medical school or wouldn't be able to pass medical school. They are grabbing through contributions to politicians and legislation what they weren't capable of achieving through education.

This is yet another example of the dumbing down of medicine in the U.S.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
3129 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:44 pm to
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I've never met an optometrist who claims they are qualified/trained to do retinal surgery. Have you?


Nope. I went to several optometrist when I was a kid.

They ALL told me I had "lazy eye".

At 15, I went to a young optometrist at Walmart and he told me, "You need to get to UAB, Something is wrong"

He is still my "regular" eye doc today, but I also go to the eye foundation.

I found out I had X-linked Retinoschisis.

My optometrist wouldn't dare try to cut on my eyes.

I have no idea what the law is In Louisiana.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:49 pm to
Neither do our politicians
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:50 pm to
Wake up and call some of these people before tomorrow's vote. Last count it was close
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
3129 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:14 pm to
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It doesn't give ODs the ability to perform this kind of surgery. And they won't fight for this in the future, either


Nor should they, it takes a specialist to perform
retinal surgery.

Just like, probably, you wouldn't
want your family doctor to perform brain surgery..
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:16 pm to
Except that your family doc graduated med school..
Psychologist / neurosurgeon is the more appropriate analogy
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 8:18 pm
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