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re: On this day in 1815, Colonel Jackson took a little trip down the mighty Mississippi

Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:17 pm to
I was in a museum in the Tower of London and there was a teeny tiny little reference to this battle there...

I took a picture of it but cain't find it nowheres.

Pakenham was a connected muckity-muck.

Wikipedia Link to his biography

Wellington's b-i-l.

Well he's DEAD now!

This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by PhantomMenace
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:29 pm to
My direct ancestor may have in fact been exactly there. He was with Lafitte's men, as his sister was Lafitte's wife.

The English very easily could have won the battle. Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line. They instead were ordered to retreat because Packenham had been killed along with other top command.
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:29 pm to
True, from what I read he wasn't a man for small talk and was quick to look "down" on "lesser" men.
Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:30 pm to
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his sister was Lafitte's wife.
pics?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line.
That's over a half a mile distance at the nearest.

The accuracy of Napoleonic War-era artillery was not good enough to hit the American side and not hit engaged Brits.

And the Brits were running low on reserves to take advantage of a breech had it occurred on the River's edge.

That's a bad place to try to take advantage of a breech, your fall back option is going into the icy Mississippi River.
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Packenham
It's Pakenham.

This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:42 pm to
Our finest hour

Thank your nearest Chalmation

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Packenham It's Pakenham.


I think we have both of those streets twice each in our parish
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Mark Carlton's take in HIST 2071 many years ago was that the artillery won the battle,
we won because we built that fortification. It was like a mound going from the Mississippi River to the swamp and we hid behind it
Posted by michael corleone
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 2:58 pm to
Got to love Dr Carleton If you figured out how to make a relevant reference to John Philip Sousa in any answer to an essay question, you were gold. Made two A’s using this strategy. For some reason the man adored John Philip Sousa. I witnessed him “perform“ at least three or four marches in class. It was magnificent.
Posted by tigahbruh
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 7:06 am to
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Neither army realizes that the two governments have already signed a peace treaty and the conflict has officially been over since Christmas Eve.

The conflict was not officially over until treaty ratification in late February, over a month after the battle.
Pakenham was specifically ordered to ignore word of a treaty and to take New Orleans no matter what.
Brits did not consider anything Napoleon did to be legal or legitimate (ie transfer of La territory to France or US).
Very plausible outcome of a British victory would have been a return of most of it to Spain.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 7:23 am to
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Dominique You and Renato Beluche


It was said that these two were magnificent artillerymen. Highly accurate gunners. ( with what they had to shoot at the time)

Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 8:17 am to
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The English very easily could have won the battle. Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line.
they were sluggish because they were too full of Rocky and Carlos Mac and cheese to fight.
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