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re: On this day in 1815, Colonel Jackson took a little trip down the mighty Mississippi
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:17 pm to ornagestorm
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:17 pm to ornagestorm
I was in a museum in the Tower of London and there was a teeny tiny little reference to this battle there...
I took a picture of it but cain't find it nowheres.
Pakenham was a connected muckity-muck.
Wikipedia Link to his biography
Wellington's b-i-l.
Well he's DEAD now!
I took a picture of it but cain't find it nowheres.
Pakenham was a connected muckity-muck.
Wikipedia Link to his biography
Wellington's b-i-l.
Well he's DEAD now!
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:29 pm to vl100butch
My direct ancestor may have in fact been exactly there. He was with Lafitte's men, as his sister was Lafitte's wife.
The English very easily could have won the battle. Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line. They instead were ordered to retreat because Packenham had been killed along with other top command.
The English very easily could have won the battle. Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line. They instead were ordered to retreat because Packenham had been killed along with other top command.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:29 pm to X123F45
True, from what I read he wasn't a man for small talk and was quick to look "down" on "lesser" men.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:30 pm to PhantomMenace
quote:pics?
his sister was Lafitte's wife.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:40 pm to PhantomMenace
quote:That's over a half a mile distance at the nearest.
Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line.
The accuracy of Napoleonic War-era artillery was not good enough to hit the American side and not hit engaged Brits.
And the Brits were running low on reserves to take advantage of a breech had it occurred on the River's edge.
That's a bad place to try to take advantage of a breech, your fall back option is going into the icy Mississippi River.
quote:It's Pakenham.
Packenham
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:42 pm to ornagestorm
Our finest hour
Thank your nearest Chalmation
I think we have both of those streets twice each in our parish
Thank your nearest Chalmation
quote:
Packenham It's Pakenham.
I think we have both of those streets twice each in our parish
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:48 pm to vl100butch
quote:we won because we built that fortification. It was like a mound going from the Mississippi River to the swamp and we hid behind it
Mark Carlton's take in HIST 2071 many years ago was that the artillery won the battle,
Posted on 1/8/21 at 2:58 pm to vl100butch
Got to love Dr Carleton If you figured out how to make a relevant reference to John Philip Sousa in any answer to an essay question, you were gold. Made two A’s using this strategy. For some reason the man adored John Philip Sousa. I witnessed him “perform“ at least three or four marches in class. It was magnificent.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 7:06 am to ornagestorm
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Neither army realizes that the two governments have already signed a peace treaty and the conflict has officially been over since Christmas Eve.
The conflict was not officially over until treaty ratification in late February, over a month after the battle.
Pakenham was specifically ordered to ignore word of a treaty and to take New Orleans no matter what.
Brits did not consider anything Napoleon did to be legal or legitimate (ie transfer of La territory to France or US).
Very plausible outcome of a British victory would have been a return of most of it to Spain.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 7:23 am to vl100butch
quote:
Dominique You and Renato Beluche
It was said that these two were magnificent artillerymen. Highly accurate gunners. ( with what they had to shoot at the time)
Posted on 1/9/21 at 8:17 am to PhantomMenace
quote:they were sluggish because they were too full of Rocky and Carlos Mac and cheese to fight.
The English very easily could have won the battle. Their company on the west bank had taken the American positions and could have fired the cannon across the river onto the American line.
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