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re: Official Louisiana Bar Exam July Results Thread

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Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:20 pm to
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It's doing better than your peers so you can find a job after you graduate that's the hard part.

more than that it's either having the connections prior to law school, or doing networking in undergrad and law school so that you have something lined out well in advance
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:21 pm to
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Any idiot can read some outlines a week before an exam and pass the class.


I am as self deprecating and critical of the profession as the next guy, but that's simply not true.

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It's doing better than your peers so you can find a job after you graduate that's the hard part.


I relied on the kindness of others and did just fine.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Future_FlexZone
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
284 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:34 pm to
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SOUTHERN 102 24 (23.53%) 78 (76.47%)


Good god, why so many applicants with so many failures... Did Mike Foster pass his Bar at night school?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22850 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:39 pm to
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more than that it's either having the connections prior to law school, or doing networking in undergrad and law school so that you have something lined out well in advance


Eh, to some extent, but this is overplayed. Having connections may get you a job at smaller firms, but the big firms are hiring based on merits.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22850 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:41 pm to
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relied on the kindness of others and did just fine.


I didn't mean sabotaging other people, I just meant finishing in the top 20 or 10% depending on what job you are targeting.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88401 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:52 pm to
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based on merits.


always good to have in your pocket, but connections will trump it every time
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:54 pm to
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Good god, why so many applicants with so many failures... Did Mike Foster pass his Bar at night school?

I'm pretty sure Big Mike never passed... in fact, I don't think he ever even bothered to take the exam.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22850 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:55 pm to
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always good to have in your pocket, but connections will trump it every time


It really doesn't. It helps, but if you have connections at a big firm but are bottom half of the class, you're not getting a job.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:57 pm to
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It really doesn't. It helps, but if you have connections at a big firm but are bottom half of the class, you're not getting a job.

Where's that poster who claimed he was a 2L at Loyola and had an inside track at a big firm partnership when he graduated because he "knew a guy?"
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:58 pm to
It's easier to cure Ebola than get a job as a lawyer nowadays.
Posted by ShreveportSteamer
SFO/ORD/DFW/MSY/SHV/DCA/MHT
Member since Jun 2014
276 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:59 pm to
In my law school experience plenty of people used outlines the days before an exam and aced it, myself included.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88401 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:00 pm to
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you're not getting a job.

if your name, or your friend/relative's name is among those in the paragraph that is the letterhead you will, but I'm like you(seem to be) I wanted to make it on my own merit, I did, and although I love to help other people coming up, one of the things I'm most proud of is that I got to where I am without any assistance from anyone(with the exception of the LANG)
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40084 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:01 pm to
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In my law school experience plenty of people used outlines the days before an exam and aced it, myself included.

Lol wut
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22850 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:04 pm to
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if your name, or your friends name is among those in the paragraph that is the letterhead you will,


Again, maybe the smaller firms, but all of the big players in La have no nepotism policies, so if you have the same last name, even if you are number 1 in your class, you aren't getting a job at that firm.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:05 pm to
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In my law school experience plenty of people used outlines the days before an exam and aced it, myself included.

What bullshite. Seems like law students are evenly split between people who claim they are studying 10-12 hours a day, every day, just to freak everyone else out; and people who claim they never even looked at a book until the week before an exam, so show what a badass they are.

Actually I know one guy who I actually believe this for. He did not finish in the top half of the class, but that didn't much bother him.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88401 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:06 pm to
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even if you are number 1 in your class, you aren't getting a job at that firm.



if I hadn't seent it so many times I wouldn't bother, but a "PI(political insert,)" wins out every time
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22850 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:07 pm to
There are some extremely incompetent people in law school. There are also others that are competent, but don't care to put forth very much effort.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40084 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:08 pm to
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but all of the big players in La have no nepotism policies, so if you have the same last name, even if you are number 1 in your class, you aren't getting a job at that firm.

Not really true. Not at at least one of the big ones.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38155 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:10 pm to
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You pick fictitious names for them to post in the event you fail.


So post real names, more incentive to pass.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22850 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:12 pm to
Ok. I know a few people in law school right now with parents at larger law firms and they won't even get a look from their parent's firm.

That doesn't mean that their parents can't call up a friend at another big firm and get their kid a foot in the door, but even that connection is only going to help them get in over marginally better students. A connection is not getting a 75% student a job at your Kean miller, Taylor porter, phelps etc.
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