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re: NYPD Looking for Possible Threat - Active Situation

Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Honest question. If it turned out that it was a family of Muslims who weren't very bright getting ready to play paintball, and someone killed them all, would you feel bad?


Someone?

You ever been to Staten Island, champ? paintball isnt allowed there either.

Do you know how fricking stupid you would have to be to be using real-life paintball guns in muslim garb in the ready position in a neighborhood the day after a terrorist attack?

I mean seriously, your hypothetical is absurd, unless they all have an IQ of 12.
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:17 pm to






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Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:19 pm to
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You ever been to Staten Island, champ? paintball isnt allowed there either.



Champ. You're like a caricature of yourself. What I'm getting at, quite obviously, is whether you're down for killing some innocent, but admittedly stupid, Muslims.

I mean, should be easy enough to answer.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:20 pm to
If this happened in Texas they would be dead already.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:20 pm to
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If this happened in Texas they would be dead already.



Muslims probably know better than to play stupid games down here.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:21 pm to
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What I'm getting at, quite obviously, is whether you're down for killing some innocent, but admittedly stupid, Muslims.

I mean, should be easy enough to answer.


I am not for killing any innocent people. For any reason.

But to assume that all options have an equal probability in this situation is fricking retarded. You've lost your damned mind in PC bullshite. All probabilities of eventuality are NOT equal.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

once a hadji named Abu-Jafar,
Shot a gun and cried "Allah-ackbar"
Then a pink mist was seen,
As a grinning marine,
Sent his arse to meet God from afar.


There once was a mooj from Nantucket...
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Champ. You're like a caricature of yourself. What I'm getting at, quite obviously, is whether you're down for killing some innocent, but admittedly stupid, Muslims.



If they point this gun at police officers or threaten them, and the officers engage, then I see no problem. It's the same as a kid that points a fake gun at them. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I don't see how this would be a smart decision for them given what happened yesterday. Yes, it's profiling, but sometimes profiling saves lives. Rather than playing into this stereotype carrying around guns they should try to exhibit themselves as this "religion of peace" they keep preaching about.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:23 pm to
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But to assume that all options have an equal probability in this situation is fricking retarded. You've lost your damned mind in PC bullshite. All probabilities of eventuality are NOT equal.



I'm making no statement about what I think they're up to. Seems pretty insane to me to do what they're doing. Obviously I hope they're just idiots and not a threat to anyone.

But I don't think it's overly PC to ask a follow up when someone says "they look muslim, mow em down"
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:24 pm to
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@HeyNowJO 10m10 minutes ago
UPDATE: All lanes on bridges will now open and traffic will begin to flow....
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:24 pm to
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If they point this gun at police officers or threaten them, and the officers engage, then I see no problem. It's the same as a kid that points a fake gun at them. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I don't see how this would be a smart decision for them given what happened yesterday. Yes, it's profiling, but sometimes profiling saves lives. Rather than playing into this stereotype carrying around guns they should try to exhibit themselves as this "religion of peace" they keep preaching about.



Obviously. Pretty much what I said with my first post in this thread.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:26 pm to
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But I don't think it's overly PC to ask a follow up when someone says "they look muslim, mow em down"


your hypothetical took something that literally has so low of a probability no statistician would call it different from zero.

But then again, I think that every time a muslim shoots a person, we bomb a city.

If they bomb a city, we desrtroy a country, etc.

Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:26 pm to
Didn't stop them in Garland.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:26 pm to
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Idiots maybe, but the question is are they breaking any laws?


If it's a real m4, then yea its against the law here outright. NYS passed the NY Safe act which outlawed all assault rifles, or "assault look alike". Just to have a regular pump shotgun, you need to convince your local police commander that you need it for work or self protection, where you then get photographed and fingerprinted. For a pistol permit the process is even more stringent.

If it's a paintball gun they're fine legally, though the NYPD might have a problem with people wearing turbines holding assault paintball guns roaming NYC.

At the very least it's a really stupid thing to do.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Didn't stop them in Garland.



Sure, nor in Tennessee. I'm saying Muslims in the south and Texas may be a little more aware of appearing to be a threat given their likely proximity to people carrying weapons at a given time.

But I'm talking about those who aren't seeking to inflict harm who are cautious to avoid that appearance, not those who intend to commit violent acts.
Posted by miamitiger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:32 pm to
That mini van looks weighed down...hope just by people
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:32 pm to
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Sure, nor in Tennessee. I'm saying Muslims in the south and Texas may be a little more aware of appearing to be a threat given their likely proximity to people carrying weapons at a given time.

But I'm talking about those who aren't seeking to inflict harm who are cautious to avoid that appearance, not those who intend to commit violent acts.



Wait a minute.

You think that all Muslims in the US aren't aware that wearing traditional Muslim garb while carrying what appears to be an AR-15 in public might cause a heightened sense of awareness by the general public?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:34 pm to
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You think that all Muslims in the US aren't aware that wearing traditional Muslim garb while carrying what appears to be an AR-15 in public might cause a heightened sense of awareness by the general public?



Don't read too much into it. I'm saying if I was a Muslim, I'd consider the margin for stupidity slimmer in Texas than in Detroit or Minneapolis.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:43 pm to
That first pic looks like a woman in heels or wedges. You don't play paintball in wedges. Hell I wouldn't be walking with a gun in wedges.
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