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Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:56 pm to UtahCajun
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We do know that it won't be the fully trained and equipped protest response unit.
You do not know this. You are speculating this.
Either way is speculation at this point.
The statement he has leads to believe there will be two separate units instead of one combined.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:57 pm to fightin tigers
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“And what it has eventually become is both dealing with counterterrorism and responses to exercising First Amendment rights. I do not believe that those purposes need to be dual purposes. I believe that we should have a focus on counterterrorism that is separate from our response to the use of First Amendment"
What this sounds like is a way for the civilian responders to squash speech they don't agree with, and since they aren't in a fully official capacity and are only volunteers, the city can't get in trouble for picking whose right to free speech is OK and whose isn't
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:59 pm to fightin tigers
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Basically saying the counter-terrorism group will concentrate on counter-terrorism things and not worry about crowd control.
Worry about people blowing up wall street and less about people occupying wall street
So yeah, let's disband the Strategic Response Group just to band it back together in a renamed package for a singular focus.
That is what this is saying. Sounds like a big waste of time since we all know the bulk of that group was riot control and not counter terrorism.
Good luck to them. We all know how this will work.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:59 pm to stout
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What this sounds like is a way for the civilian responders to squash speech they don't agree with, and since they aren't in a fully official capacity and are only volunteers, the city can't get in trouble for picking whose right to free speech is OK and whose isn't
Could certainly be a risk. Could be abused like some believe Shomrim does today in NYC.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:01 pm to UtahCajun
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So yeah, let's disband the Strategic Response Group just to band it back together in a renamed package for a singular focus.
That is what this is saying. Sounds like a big waste of time since we all know the bulk of that group was riot control and not counter terrorism
Two individual specialized groups could be better than one that is half assing each way.
Counter-terrorism and protest response.....
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:01 pm to fightin tigers
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You do not know this. You are speculating this.
Either way is speculation at this point.
The statement he has leads to believe there will be two separate units instead of one combined.
I can tell that you only skimmed the article...
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:01 pm to RT1941
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NYPD would post up nearby and conduct arrests if needed
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:02 pm to UtahCajun
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I can tell that you only skimmed the article
Right. The bottom is where he laid out the plan and all the details to the plan.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:02 pm to fightin tigers
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Two individual specialized groups could be better than one that is half assing each way
Wait, wut?
Who says half-assing? You do realize why these two tasks were put under the same umbrella correct?
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:02 pm to UtahCajun
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Where did you learn to read? Below is a quote from the actual article
Quotes are fun, let's use one
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with a new civilian unit that would take the lead on responding to protests
No mention of the plan for response to terrorism. It hasn't even been announced yet. Calm your tits a-hole
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:03 pm to stout
NYC FAing around in historic fashion. The FO will be mind boggling.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:03 pm to stout
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What this sounds like is a way for the civilian responders to squash speech they don't agree with, and since they aren't in a fully official capacity and are only volunteers, the city can't get in trouble for picking whose right to free speech is OK and whose isn't
The mental gymnastics you go through every day on this site astound me.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:04 pm to whatiknowsofar
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No mention of the plan for response to terrorism. It hasn't even been announced yet. Calm your tits a-hole
Someone pointing out your basic lack of reading skills =/= a-hole, but whatever
Nowhere in this recent post did you even touch on your original claim or my rebuttal to it.
There is a name for that.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:07 pm to stout
Burn the place down.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:08 pm to UtahCajun
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Someone pointing out your basic lack of reading skills =/= a-hole, but whatever
Nowhere in this recent post did you even touch on your original claim or my rebuttal to it.
There is a name for that.
Dude you are reaching for nothing. It is a plan that isnt even finalized, everything you're vomiting out is either speculation, not finalized, or you just being a poor deducer of information.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:10 pm to UtahCajun
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Who says half-assing? You do realize why these two tasks were put under the same umbrella correct
Because some people believe any protest is the equivalent of terrorism.
Or to save money.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:33 pm to stout
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The mayor's plan to terminate the NYPD unit may include replacing it with a new civilian unit that would take the lead on responding to protests, according to one of the anonymous sources.
The plan has not been finalized as of Thursday, but the civilian unit would have support from NYPD officers, who would assemble nearby and could step in to conduct arrests if needed, the source said, adding that the civilian group's main goal would be deescalation.
May include....
The plan has not been finalized....
Cool...cool.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:37 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Dude you are reaching for nothing. It is a plan that isnt even finalized, everything you're vomiting out is either speculation, not finalized, or you just being a poor deducer of information
You are the one reaching here and I do not know what for.
Let us look at our exchange:
You claimed that the article did not say what it in fact said.
From there we had two options:
A) you are a liar
B) you cannot read very well
There is no third option
Me being a nice guy, decided not to call you a liar so I nicely asked where you learned to read.
You then went on a tangent and started calling me names. You are still on that tangent when the best thing you ever could have done was to just say "yeah, I fricked up. Sorry"
But yeah, keep trying to get those internet forum points. Someday, you may luck into one. At least we now know that it was option A and not B.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:40 pm to fightin tigers
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Because some people believe any protest is the equivalent of terrorism.
Have you kept up with the amount of damage done via domestic aggitators in protests over the last 7 years? Have you not seen the actions? Yeah dude, it seems many protests are indeed infiltrated with people who wish to use terror tactics.
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Or to save money.
Yes, this too since equipment and much of the training needed would be much the same
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