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re: Nurses at University Medical Center vote to unionize, a Louisiana first

Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by rocksteady
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:48 pm to
Eastern European imported nurses…

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
85470 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:48 pm to
It also only takes 30% to get to a vote. Then do you think Sally isn’t going to vote when her work place bestie Karen does?

This is why unions are cancer. It’s not like back in the day when baws were in terrible working conditions. Hell, janitorial employees have unions at most universities. It’s fkn insane.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:50 pm to

Should LEO or Louisiana chemical plants be unionized?
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2176 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:50 pm to
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Nurses at our hospital wanted a voice so we can speak up for our patients and ourselves,
Until they strike then it’s all about them and screw the patient
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
85470 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:51 pm to
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Had no idea you were 23 and such a recent grad.


Was non traditional after the military a few years ago. Wife is also a RN student currently.

Do you think most nurses go from high school to top universities for entry level nursing? They don’t buddy, that’s a very small percentage.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74577 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:52 pm to
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This is why unions are cancer. It’s not like back in the day when baws were in terrible working conditions. Hell, janitorial employees have unions at most universities. It’s fkn insane.


What is your fear of unions about?

You don't have to join and agreed pay is only the base (you can be compensated above that amount).

Have you worked in a union, the actual complaints are totally different than what is being said in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 8:53 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39300 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:53 pm to
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Pay the replacements and anyone that wants to stay 15-20% more.


So no official union but the nurses get what they want?

Cool.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6033 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:53 pm to
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importing nurses from Eastern European countries.


Having seen these nurses in person, these are the hot Eastern women you think they are...
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:54 pm to
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Wife is also a RN student currently.



You should thank us for putting her through school using our tax dollars. And we look forward to her Tik Toks all day.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:54 pm to
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What is your fear of unions about?


It fricks over the consumer, business and diminishes the product/service.

I said a few posts ago I can understand why this is happening in healthcare after how they fired their staff and paid temp employees stupid money. Just not a big union guy as everything is moving in that direction.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:56 pm to
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t fricks over the consumer, business and diminishes the product/service


Have your lattes been less basic since Starbucks unionized?

How does it frick over the business? They save a ton if done right.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39300 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:58 pm to
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I'm wondering just how awful an employer they have to be for 75% of the nurses to want a union.


I know several current and former nurses / other medical workers at UMC. Supposedly there is a ton of tension between employees and management. A ton.

So I’m not at all surprised by this vote.

Right now down here if you want to be a hospital nurse you have to work for LCMC (runs UMC) or Ochsner. That’s it.

And neither of those entities are exactly known as good places to work that are loved by their employees.

I think this is just the beginning.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Just not a big union guy as everything is moving in that direction.


I think you read too much Twitter conjecture or something. Private union participation is down to like 6% and has been falling for years and years.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
85470 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:00 pm to
If you owned a business do you want employees demanding shite then having leverage over you? Healthcare economics is a bit different of a beast but my post was in general relation to businesses and unions.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74577 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:04 pm to
Leverege? You mean an employee negotiating their worth vs me threatening to replace them for cheaper labor?

Or do you mean I can account for my budget 3 years in advance? I can market to potential employees with a guaranteed pay structure? I can handle almost all personnel issues (and promotions) with a set standard agreed upon by all employees and enforced by employees.

Most US companies are shite when negotiating with unions. Because they approach with the wrong mentality. Euro companies do so much better.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
7626 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:04 pm to
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He’s not entirely wrong. The nurses pushing for unionization aren’t of the specialized type. These are the Delgado associates type whose responsibilities don’t really go beyond taking vitals and inserting an IV.


I’m sure that they have a large number of LPNs thinking they should be paid what the RNs are making.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74577 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:06 pm to
They will push and see care diminish. More and more will be put on the LPNs.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39300 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Healthcare economics is a bit different of a beast but my post was in general relation to businesses and unions.


Therein lies the issues. It’s hard to make sweeping generalizations about all unions and all industries.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21429 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:07 pm to
Collective bargaining is legalized extortion.
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
547 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:09 pm to
You’re a little slow, aren’t you? Or else some nurse rejected you…
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