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re: NOLA named 4th least competitive job market in US
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:24 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:24 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
The people won't go for the idea. They would rather sit in traffic and bitch then get an actual solution.
Look at BR in general. They oppose progress at every step just to continue bitching.
Look at BR in general. They oppose progress at every step just to continue bitching.
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:26 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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99% has failed,
Just love to throw out that BS huh?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:26 pm to fightin tigers
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The people won't go for the idea. They would rather sit in traffic and bitch then get an actual solution.
Look at BR in general. They oppose progress at every step just to continue bitching.
It all boils down to sharing a passenger car with minorities. Pretty sad...God I hope they build it!
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:30 pm to ellishughtiger
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It all boils down to sharing a passenger car with minorities. Pretty sad...God I hope they build it!
Basically this in a nutshell.
I would use the shite out of it just for visiting friends/family in the area.
The train in Seattle from the airport to downtown is a great example of what it could be. Transportation shouldn't have to pass a "pay for itself" hurdle. Roads certainly don't yet every other form is put to that test.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:35 pm to ellishughtiger
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All those rail systems across Europe and the NE US, huge failures, let me tell you...
There is a difference between something being operational and economically profitable.
Before that privatized Czech line with Uber, I believe the only profitable passenger rail line in Europe was one that originated in France.
But I'll go check again.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:38 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
High Speed Rail in Europe and Asia
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From a financial standpoint, only two HSR lines in the world are profitable: Paris-Lyon in France
and Tokyo-Osaka in Japan. A third line, Hakata-Osaka in Japan, breaks even. The majority of
high-speed rail lines require large government subsidies from both general taxpayers and drivers.
Even with generous subsidies, traveling by high-speed rail is still more expensive than flying for
12 of the 23 most popular high-speed rail routes in the world—regardless of whether the traveler
purchases a ticket in advance or only a week before travel. Flying would be cheaper on some other
routes if they were served by discount airlines. For routes that are less than 150 miles, intercity
coach buses are much cheaper and take only slightly longer than high-speed trains. The evidence
suggests that HSR can only be competitive on routes that are between 200 and 500 miles in length
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:44 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
So rail lines are like roadways, require government subsidies to stay afloat.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:46 pm to fightin tigers
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So rail lines are like roadways, require government subsidies to stay afloat.
I'm done.
Go ahead and give our LA politicians a few billion to play with. I'm sure they will spend it wisely, as they do.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:49 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Go ahead and give our LA politicians a few billion to play with. I'm sure they will spend it wisely, as they do.
Already do that with the federal highway dollars coming in.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:50 pm to kingbob
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It will also be a huge resource for evacuations.
Since the line will stop in Baton Rouge, the "evacuation" justification does not make a lot of sense to me.
We'd better get people a lot farther away from Baton Rouge if a hurricane's predicted track is over New Orleans. Those models are often off the mark 50-90 miles 36-48 hours before landfall, putting Baton Rouge easily within the margin of error (or vice versa).
IMO, if they wanted a high speed service to even come close to justifying itself, they'd need traditional "normal speed" service north of Baton Rouge towards Alexandria and Shreveport to collect passengers at all those map dots on the line and apply more demand for the high speed section south of Baton Rouge.. They do that on the Keystone corridor to feed passengers to the northeast corridor.
Honestly, even if they pull that off, I doubt they'd have enough demand to justify any decent level of service.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:55 pm to fightin tigers
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They oppose progress at every step just to continue bitching.
You must be thinking of Ascension Parish.
Baton Rouge voters voluntarily taxed themselves widen and improve streets, including some state roads when they couldn't get funding. Many of the city's most congested routes today are state or federal highways, including Airline and Interstate 10.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:02 pm to member12
It took 9 pages for this thread to become a BR v. NOLA thread.
The OT is slipping.
The OT is slipping.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:05 pm to AbitaFan08
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It took 9 pages for this thread to become a BR v. NOLA thread.
The OT is slipping.
I don't see anywhere this has become a BR vs NOLA thread.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:24 pm to member12
The high speed plan was abandoned years ago. I was referring to the much cheaper (though still not cheap) commuter rail (regular speed) between br and nola. BR doesn't flood during hurricanes, so even getting people to BR would be huge.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:08 pm
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