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re: No bar exam thread

Posted on 7/30/16 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Skooter
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 9:29 am to
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Lol, you think they already graded Code 3? Really?


No. And I didn't say that. Cutting the rest of my sentence off changes the context entirely.

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Heard Code 3 was absurd this year. Already the most failed part of the whole week, and they decided to get cute with it this time around.


Code 3 is the most failed part of each administration. So why take an already bad test and make it worse?
Posted by Murtown
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:29 am to
I could have strangled the code III examiner. He tested on what I think was a UCC 9 security interest with the tractor, which the bar isn't supposed to test on.

Also the bags of flour? It's not 1865 people aren't exchanging sacks of flour, come on man
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:40 am to
Here come those lofty 36k a year job offers flooding the door!
Posted by Murtown
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:51 am to
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quote: Not one redhibition question Oh man, that blue balled the hell outta me. Was just itching for those points


Somebody told me they did an entire redhibition model answer before opening the rest. What an idiot.

But yea I was pissed redhibition and ordinary use wasn't on there. I poured as much eviction as I could though
Posted by Murtown
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 10:54 am to
Btw I never realized there were so many communists in here that don't support a free market economy
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 11:00 am to
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Here come those lofty 36k a year job offers flooding the door!


Yeah, it's pretty sad out there right now.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 11:54 am to
When I took it it was brutal. A lot of people got GOATSE'd
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 11:56 am to
I took it in 2011 and it was perty easy
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 12:04 pm to
It got legit in 2012
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 12:05 pm to
That's what I heard. Did you take the MS Bar? I took it in 2012.
Posted by Jim Smith
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 12:28 pm to
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Here come those lofty 36k a year job offers flooding the door!


Maybe for the beta lawyers...
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 1:33 pm to
Or protecting what is rightfully his/hers from others.

Insurance salesmen, real restate agents, car salesmen and financial advisers are all in the same boat. Basically, people hate for paying for services instead of goods, so these professions are hated.
Posted by LakeBreauxPre
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 2:47 pm to
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Lawyers are the very thing that keep a society functioning, you twit. If you find a utopian society in which all things that are just are simply performed, then I'll be the first on a boat to get there. But in the real world, lawyers are necessary. If you find a place where law exists, you will find lawyers, and if you find a place where law doesn't exist, you will find chaos.

Are there people who try to take advantage of the system of law? Certainly. How is that the fault of the lawyer? Humans are humans. They desire more than they have. That's their nature. And when they frick up, they don't want to pay for it. That's their nature. But imagine a society without law. Imagine a society in which a guy who was injured by a drunk trucker couldn't get some form of payment for his damages because the trucker simply told him to go frick himself and try and take it by force. Imagine if the trucker hadn't done anything wrong and some frickwit pulled out in front of the trucker and got run over like an idiot, then tried to make the trucker pay for it. Then he beat up the trucker and took his fricking lunch money. But because what is "just" should have happened, which is laughably naïve, you feel that at least one lawyer is impeding the progress of justice. Ha! As if any situation is as simple as "the just should prevail."

You seem to think lawyers are scum not because of what they do, but because you can't see that they protect humanity from itself. There is a reason it is an old and respected profession. And even using the stupid fricking analogy that lawyers are the grease of government and shouldn't be treated like a camshaft or piston, good like getting the engine to work when it's seized up, you ignorant little shite.

You must be neither a mechanic or a high school educated clothes folder at Hollister. At least if you were the latter you would have taken Civics and know more than you claim to.

Enjoy the shelter.


Lord Jesus what a takedown.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 3:00 pm to
Code III was terrible last year as well and had a curveball or two thrown in. It's the new examiner.
Posted by Skooter
Member since Jun 2008
2253 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Code III was terrible last year as well and had a curveball or two thrown in. It's the new examiner.



Bingo
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 3:51 pm to
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Lord Jesus what a takedown.


Not exactly, it reads more like someone who's trying to convince himself instead of someone else. He even admits that ideally, the profession wouldn't exist. Then he goes off on a tirade of hypotheticals without laws, as if there is no in between and the levels of bureaucracy that we currently have are the only alternative to a wild west. We have the shitty legal industry that we have now because lawyers have dissected every facet of society that they can drain money from while contributing NOTHING.

Then he ends it with some ad hominem. Look if you went to law school to make a bunch of money to support your family and way of life, awesome. You've found a clever way to make a profit, but don't pretend that you contribute to society. Lawyers feed off of society like a tick on a horse.
Posted by Murtown
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 4:39 pm to
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He even admits that ideally, the profession wouldn't exist


Ideally, I wouldn't have to take a shite everyday but it's something I have to do.

I don't understand your argument, there's a lot of things about society that aren't great but we have to deal with everyday. No profession is going around handing out lollipops existing only to contribute to society, they are there to make money. What about the clients I've had call my office thanking us for changing their life? Are there a lot of bad apples in the profession yes, are lawyers needed, yes, do they contribute to society, yes. I would say more than a lot of professions.

The problem is most of the time when somebody comes to a lawyer it's because they are having a problem. Thus, people always associate lawyers with bad times in their life, and if the outcome is not 100% what the client expects it is ALWAYS the lawyers fault. "Why did you let me lose custody of my kids?" "It's not may fault I got drunk got in a wreck and got caught with drugs in the car." It's always the lawyers fault for not fixing it
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 4:48 pm to
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Are there a lot of bad apples in the profession yes, are lawyers needed, yes, do they contribute to society


Laws are necessary, yes. Judges are necessary in order to understand and enforce those laws. Lawyers (yeah I know judges start out as lawyers, but this is a hypothetical) are simply there to manipulate the laws for whomever they are representing. Our legal industry is a fricked up Behemoth of bureaucracy made by lawyers in order to benefit lawyers with no regard for the justice or even fairness that they are there to strive for (in theory anyway). Don't y'all have to read The Trial at some point in law school?


ETA and to this point
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No profession is going around handing out lollipops existing only to contribute to society, they are there to make money. What about the clients I've had call my office thanking us for changing their life?


There's plenty of professionals who go into their field to better society; cops, teachers, firemen, none of them make dick but a lot feel some source of pride and civic duty. They're essentially that horse to which lawyers are the tick.

Even well paid professions can see a positive impact on society. Engineers can look at a bridge they designed or doctors can see patients they've cured. What is the best achievement for a lawyer's career "I got someone a lot of money that already was rightfully theirs and I took some of it for myself".

I'm not an anarchist who wants lawlessness, but if we're going to have a legal system to protect citizens then it shouldn't be reserved for those who can afford it.
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Murtown
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/30/16 at 11:02 pm to
There are definitely too many crooked under qualified attorneys. As Hank jr. says there's damn few backwoods lawyers left these days. That's what we need more of
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 7/31/16 at 12:03 am to
Fair enough, I think we found some common ground.
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