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Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:18 pm to tigersownall
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It's not gonna shut down so point is moot.
I tend to agree. Cuts need to be made and if Nicholls ends up on the chopping block, so be it, but I don't believe it will happen, mainly because it doesn't really save enough.
Nicholls receives the 2nd lowest amount of state funding from any school in the UL system - Grambling receives the least.
As a percentage of their 2014-2015 budgets, state funding represents 29.2% of Nicholls' budget - a little more than $16M from the state. That is the 3rd lowest in the UL system behind Southeastern (27.8% or $31.6M) and LA Tech (28.7% or $29.7M).
Meanwhile, ULL receives 34.7% of their budget from the state ($47.6M) and ULM receives 35.1% form the state ($26.4M).
Closing Nicholls is hardly a drop in the bucket of the overall budget and Nicholls is much more efficient than many other schools in the UL System.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:20 pm to tigersownall
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Couldn't be further from the truth. Many intern in Nola, but do not stay. I know at least 8 people right now who are working at major country clubs across America.
Okay? The point is they're not staying in Thibodeaux so why the need to keep the program there? I'm willing to bet more of the students move to NOLA after graduation than stay in Thibodeaux.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:22 pm to TigerNlc
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McNeese is supposed to break ground on a 30 million dollar basketball arena. Not sure if that's still happening.
why? for the love of god why?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:25 pm to Dire Wolf
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why? for the love of god why?
Because that is what colleges do when the federal government and the state government have basically left the funding spigots wide open for the last 20+ years.
The idea that everyone needed to own a home got us into a mess in 2008-2009, and now that same false premise in higher education is coming home to roost.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:35 pm to Dire Wolf
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why? for the love of god why?
Why not? McNeese doesn't own a basketball facility, they lease one owned by the parish. I don't know if this is cheaper in the long run but they secured the funds so. It's also more than just a basketball arena.
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Crawford Architects is working with RGA Architects of Lake Charles, Louisiana to design the new Health & Human Performance Education Complex Building at McNeese State University. The project consists of a 4,000 seat arena for basketball and auxiliary gymnasium facilities for volleyball competition (600 seats) plus basketball practice floors. Another component of the project includes approximately 15,000 square feet of classrooms and laboratories for McNeese State's H&HP Program. State of the art training and operations facilities for basketball and volleyball are also housed in the complex. Design is on track for completion this year with construction set to start early 2016.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:44 pm to tunechi
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Nicholls considering temporary closure
This is a worst case scenario.
Alexander used to air LSU's dirty laundry like this every time he wanted to draw attention prior to a legislative session. It was never anywhere near as bad as what they tell CNN or FoxNews before the session.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 4:54 pm to UpToPar
You can't even fricking spell it right. Why are you pretending to know what you are talking about?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:11 pm to UpToPar
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Maybe, but why shut down UNO when you can shut down Nicholls? Do you not think the opposite is true? UNO is great because it offers students the opportunity to find work after graduation in the same city they went to school. Not too many opportunities in Thibodeaux after graduating from Nicholls. It would be absurd for the largest and most populated region in the state to have no public university while Thibodeaux Louisiana has one.
I think you are missing my point. UNO has no room to grow and is a stiff breeze away from being Atlantis. Besides, UNO is almost 100% commuters. Nicholls is nothing now, but has hundreds of acres of space to grow. It could support the necessary growth a consolidation would demand. Colleges don't have to be in big cities (I'm looking at you, Starkville), but Nicholls has good proximity to all of the major population centers in south Louisiana.
Just a thought.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
Strictly as an aside re the comments about Nicholls: a large majority of the buildings on campus are named after Confederate generals. And one of Mayor Landrieu's brothers graduated from there. Just saying........
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:29 pm to tigersownall
You seem really angry about all this. Nicholls grad? Thibodeaux (sp?) resident?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:40 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I think you are missing my point. UNO has no room to grow and is a stiff breeze away from being Atlantis. Besides, UNO is almost 100% commuters. Nicholls is nothing now, but has hundreds of acres of space to grow. It could support the necessary growth a consolidation would demand. Colleges don't have to be in big cities (I'm looking at you, Starkville), but Nicholls has good proximity to all of the major population centers in south Louisiana.
These are good points, but I just don't see how you close down UNO. I don't know that there is a ton of room for expansion, but the lakefront is certainly not as crowded as downtown Atlanta (GA Tech). There's a reason there are so many commuters at UNO. The greater NOLA area probably has a greater college aged population than the rest of the state combined. Where are those students going to go? You are talking about inconveniencing a small community vs forcing college aged kids in the largest populated metropolitan area of the state to move 50-70 miles or so for the next closest public university.
I don't have any connections to either school, but I don't think New Orleans should be without a legitimate public university (read, not SUNO)
Posted on 2/15/16 at 5:54 pm to UpToPar
No doubt. I went to both universities and it just seemed like Nicholls had more long term potential. UNOs campus is dead- likely due to it being a commuter school.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 6:28 pm to slackster
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For the life of me I cannot understand why a school like Nicholls would offer some of the degrees it offers
This. There's a boatload of degrees offered that are pointless to the university and area. Case in point my wife having a Mass Comm degree from them. She regrets that decision everyday. Also, why must they offer the "Pre-Law", "Pre Engineering" and "Pre Pharmacy" class schedule when the curriculum doesn't allow for the degree being offered at Nicholls. That's an easy fix there and a price reduction to the university.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:17 pm to Keltic Tiger
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a large majority of the buildings on campus are named after Confederate generals
Not true. Only 2 Polk and Beauregard
One named after their first president(Elkins), some after students, some after major contributors to education and others after contributors to Nicholls.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:48 pm to UpToPar
Graduated and continue to have dealings with the university. Thibodaux is not as bad as people say.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:08 pm to tigersownall
Lots of talk about Nicholls and not a mention of Northwestern State.
How far is it from ULM and LA Tech?
Solution:
LSU, ULL, Southeatern, UNO, LA Tech, ULM (only bc pharm school) remain.
Change these schools to 2 year: Nicholls, McNeese,
Northwestern State.
Pull the plug entirely on SUNO and Grambling. Goodbye.
I'm not sure what to do about Southern. Southern is garbage though, let's face the facts here.
How far is it from ULM and LA Tech?
Solution:
LSU, ULL, Southeatern, UNO, LA Tech, ULM (only bc pharm school) remain.
Change these schools to 2 year: Nicholls, McNeese,
Northwestern State.
Pull the plug entirely on SUNO and Grambling. Goodbye.
I'm not sure what to do about Southern. Southern is garbage though, let's face the facts here.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:30 am to LNCHBOX
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So just let the whole fricking state suffer so a handful of small cities can get by with their university fueled economies? I don't think so. Closures need to happen. They're going to hurt the cities where they happen, but too bad. It needs to happen.
The whole fricking state will suffer when you take the people and businesses dependent on universities and move them to be dependent on unemployment, food stamps, and other state services.
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