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re: New Orleans council approves payday loan for cash strapped city

Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by tigersmanager
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:13 pm to
boom
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:15 am to
Can we get back to the nudes topic?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:08 am to
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So a city selling rights to future revenue for a lump sum now is nothing like a city selling rights to future revenue for a lump sum now...got it.


No.

One is a known negotiated lump sum on a fixed amount with a known loss calculated in. The other is a lump sum in exchange for unrestricted income while also implementing punishments on the city for not performing.

It's about as similar as calling this deal a payday loan. It isnt a loan as much as a lump sum advancement on agreed payout. More akin to taking a lump sum after winning the lottery or JG Wentworth your legal settlement.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 10:09 am
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:12 am to
democrats are so dumb
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:14 am to
So why not demand 136 million instead of 100 million? It’s a bad deal and expecting them to use this money wisely and invest for that return is laughable.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:19 am to
Probably the result of a negotiation. New Orleans needed the money and Caesers knew how far they could push.

Caesers probably got the better financial result but that rate isn't horrible for the city when you factor in they needed a cash safety net.

Maybe a loan from the state would have been better but the political pissing match and dragging feet would likely ensue. Plus the state is broke as well.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:49 pm to
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So why not demand 136 million instead of 100 million? It’s a bad deal and expecting them to use this money wisely and invest for that return is laughable.

Why would Cesars agree to do any amendment to the terms if they weren't getting something out of it?
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 3:22 pm to
I think they are certainly getting something out of it in the form of a major discount. Having said that, paying the 136 up front would still give them all of the leverage with Nola moving forward. Nola settling for too little if indeed they need the upfront nut.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

One is a known negotiated lump sum on a fixed amount with a known loss calculated in. The other is a lump sum in exchange for unrestricted income while also implementing punishments on the city for not performing.



This is correct. Whatever you think of the NOLA deal, it is not even on the same plane as that shitty Chicago deal. Pick a different comp.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 3:48 pm to
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You're assuming that New Orleans will use that properly. They will just waste it. It is a terrible idea


This is all that matters. They can just as easily waste $200 mil as $100 mil.

If they are smart with the money, it COULD be ok.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:10 pm to
I don't think you understand leverage and negotiation
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:29 pm to
Ok hotshot
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:52 pm to
Factoring a receivable? Don’t businesses do this all the time?
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