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re: New figures on apprentice trade pay vs. new college grad pay
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:25 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:25 am to Darth_Vader
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I’d say the same thing for things like marketing, business, IT, maybe even accounting.
If you want everyone to be low level drone managers, sure
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:26 am to JohnnyKilroy
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She wasn't in state?
No, family lives out of state.
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0 scholarships or aid?
I’ve never pried into exactly what they spent to send her to Auburn. That’s none of my business. Those numbers I sited are just averages to illustrate what college can cost.
But the point still stands, what’s the benefit of spending six figures and four years to get a job making $20 per hour?
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:27 am to Darth_Vader
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I’ve never pried into exactly what they spent to send her to Auburn. That’s none of my business.
Yet you touted them as fact
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But the point still stands, what’s the benefit of spending six figures and four years to get a job making $20 per hour?
There’s not one, but almost no one does that
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:34 am to lsu777
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disagree. marketing maybe. but the others...na, especially accounting. Mingo can tell you, accounting has a bunch or specialties and a ton of provisions as far as what can and cant be done that you learn in school.
Yeah, that’s why I categorized accounting as only a maybe in that scenario
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and the problem isnt really the colleges, although if you subscribe college is to prepare strictly for the field of choice than they have a bunch of BS classes, the problem is employers requiring a 4 year degree for every entry level position.
Agree with you here. We’re pushing so many kids to go to college, take on massive debt, and they’ll end up in jobs that really don’t give a good return on the investment in college. That’s really my thing. I’m a firm believer in getting a return on an investment that makes the investment worth it. For a lot of college degrees, it just isn’t.
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and so many touting the trades have never worked in them so they do not understand how much it sucks to work outside doing manual labor most of the year. Like right now, its fricking miserable working outside 8 hours a day everyday. even if half of the day is spent standing around waiting and thinking through an issue, its fricking miserable.
I think the trades are good for some. For starters, we have to have skilled tradesmen for society to function. And let’s be honest, college isn’t for everyone. Nothing wrong with that. Some immature kids on here look down their nose at people who work in the trades. That just shows how insecure and petty they are. Anyone who works, supports themselves and their family, I respect that.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:35 am to Darth_Vader
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Some immature kids on here look down their nose at people who work in the trades. That just shows how insecure and petty they are.
No they don’t, they just aren’t disillusioned about what the trades are
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:36 am to LNCHBOX
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That's fair, but we also need to be honest that most blue collar workers aren't going on to own their own business and getting rich. College is without a doubt better for overall earning and work/life balance. There are outliers on all sides, but on average it's the simple truth.
I agree with this but the average Blue Collar worker also never gets accepted into a good college, or at least an SEC level college.
So its a tough comparison to be made, because your average blue collar is just not that smart or at least didn't have a great work ethic early in life. Again, that's average.
But if you took your average young man that is unsure of what to do with life but that got into a good SEC school, I would argue that his outlook is going to be very similar.
I know plenty of guys that have a college degree are underutilizing it also.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:37 am to Penrod
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craftsman starts his own business
I'm not sure many young plumbers and electricians start their own businesses anymore. Operations like Accutemp offer regular work and good insurance packages. I still use a local company for HVAC, and they reward me with excellent support. For electrical and plumber I've switched to regional companies. I find the workers capable and personable, but the fixed-rate charges are too high.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:37 am to baldona
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the average Blue Collar worker also never gets accepted into a good college, or at least an SEC level college.
Yet the OT will tell you they’re all successful business owners who make the top 1% of income. Which is why every single one of these threads turns into a shite show
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:39 am to Darth_Vader
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I’ve never pried into exactly what they spent to send her to Auburn. That’s none of my business. Those numbers I sited are just averages to illustrate what college can cost.
But the point still stands, what’s the benefit of spending six figures and four years to get a job making $20 per hour?
You are right, dumbass decision potentially. But lets not assume the rest of her life is going to be based off of her current job. Tons of people took a shitty job out of college or shite first career choice and turned it around.
You can still go to an in state school in the southeast for under $10k a year before living expenses.Uf is something like $6500 tuition and I'm sure closer to $10k for in state once you add in fees, books, etc.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:42 am to lsu777
quote:This would be acceptable if it wasn’t putting wide swathes of individuals into debt.
is the point of college just to educated on the very specific job or is it to get a broad education with a focus in an area and learning to think critically on things?
If it was relatively cheap and was solely to further knowledge, I would have no issues.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Which is why every single one of these threads turns into a shite show
You are the one who turns these, and really all threads you inflect, into a complete shite show. You’re worse than a troll, you’re a virus. You offer nothing of substance to any thread you enter. All you do is troll and start shite. That’s why no one likes you and frankly the board would be better if you left and never came back.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:45 am to Darth_Vader
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You are the one who turns these, and really all threads you inflect, into a complete shite show.
Because I don’t sit around and let retards like you just make up whatever you want and present it as fact
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You offer nothing of substance to any thread you enter.
I’m ROUTINELY the only one that brings any data to any conversation. Often times, indisputable data that just straight up proves you wrong and then you melt like a woman and tell people to kill themselves over internet postings. Total trash
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:45 am to Darth_Vader
Probably the most angry poster on this board. Midget just lashes out at everyone
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:48 am to baldona
quote:Sure, but you are still leaving with ~$100k in debt, and that is if you go the bare minimum.
You can still go to an in state school in the southeast for under $10k a year before living expenses.
An 18 year old should not be allowed to take on $100k in non-dischargeable debt with zero idea of future income.
That is insane.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:48 am to DCtiger1
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Probably the most angry poster on this board.
What is so ironic is I literally could not give a frick less yet yall get all bent out of shape about what I post
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:48 am to DCtiger1
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Probably the most angry poster on this board. Midget just lashes out at everyone
Look right above your post for a prime example of what you’re talking about. He can’t help himself. He’s simply an angry little a-hole with a bad case of little man syndrome. If a thread is punch bowl, he’s definitely the turd.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:49 am to Scruffy
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Sure, but you are still leaving with ~$100k in debt
Average student debt topped out in 2021 right at $40k
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:49 am to Darth_Vader
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Look right above your post for a prime example of what you’re talking about. He can’t help himself.
I’m sitting at the airport, I got nothing better to do than make you e rage
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
So stop posting? Why the frick are you so angry?
You get joy out of constantly being an a-hole and fricking with people on the internet, seek help
You get joy out of constantly being an a-hole and fricking with people on the internet, seek help
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/13/25 at 9:51 am to DCtiger1
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So stop posting?
I find it amusing
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Why the frick are you so angry?
I’m happy as a clam chap
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