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re: New Covid restrictions from CDC based off of study from “Bear week”
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:13 am to rocket31
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:13 am to rocket31
Pfizer is 95% at preventing hospitalization for delta.
I’ve never seen the 95% figure for delta for symptomatic infection and I suspect it doesn’t exist, can you share your source?
I don’t believe you’re as informed on this subject as you think you are.
I’ve never seen the 95% figure for delta for symptomatic infection and I suspect it doesn’t exist, can you share your source?
I don’t believe you’re as informed on this subject as you think you are.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:15 am to Tiguar
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don’t believe you’re as informed on this subject as you think you are.
correct but im learning just like everyone else
this is a fluid situation
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:18 am to rocket31
Some are learning less than others.
Delta was a very small percentage of cases when the original EUA was released, hence the 95% efficacy vs symptomatic infection at first.
Delta has become 86% cases in the United States since then, which is why the 80% efficacy figure is now relevant. But that is still a good number and only 400 people out of thousands getting the ‘vid after locking lips for a week is a pretty potent argument in favor of vaccination.
The CDC is using this worst-case scenario to argue for lockdowns and you can speculate as to why. Any elections coming up soon?
Delta was a very small percentage of cases when the original EUA was released, hence the 95% efficacy vs symptomatic infection at first.
Delta has become 86% cases in the United States since then, which is why the 80% efficacy figure is now relevant. But that is still a good number and only 400 people out of thousands getting the ‘vid after locking lips for a week is a pretty potent argument in favor of vaccination.
The CDC is using this worst-case scenario to argue for lockdowns and you can speculate as to why. Any elections coming up soon?
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:21 am to Tiguar
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The CDC is using this worst-case scenario to argue for lockdowns and you can speculate as to why. Any elections coming up soon?
I 100% agree with you that the CDC is not being sincere with these new restrictions
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:22 am to rocket31
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bottom line is that no one knows yet but they sure like to pretend that they do
my theory is that if the vax works (mild symptoms), it's causing more contagious variants but that's tbd -
First part is definitely true and I guess part 2 is TBD. I just feel pretty strongly about 2 things if we are to get out of this.
1. If your are symptomatic (vaccinated or unvaccinated), assume you have Covid and minimize your social interactions to the essentials. To be honest, this is a good practice outside of Covid. We currently live in a world where working from home and having groceries delivered is easier and more affordable then ever. Might as well take advantage of it.
2. If you are unvaccinated, you need to prepare yourself to get the virus and ride it out and to have everything on hand to do it. This also requires are strong look in the mirror to determine if you are a good candidate to ride it out based off of who we know is high risk of serious complications to Covid. If through personal reflection you realize that your chances are not as good then you should really reconsider your plan to ride it out.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:28 am to STEVED00
anecdotally some vaccinated people in new orleans are def not taking the minimizing social interactions thing seriously
my entire friend group (all vaccinated) had a pretty decent outbreak a couple wks ago
I'm not sure if the overall messaging for vaccinated people has been great as some believe they can't spread it to others if they get it
my entire friend group (all vaccinated) had a pretty decent outbreak a couple wks ago
I'm not sure if the overall messaging for vaccinated people has been great as some believe they can't spread it to others if they get it
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:35 am to rocket31
The thing I’m concerned about is that even if vaccinated, Covid in some form appears to hang around. Is that something we need to be concerned with? Could allowing it to hang around instead of just letting it blow through the population and fizzle out cause issues later on? I don’t know but some doctors are expressing concern about that.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:59 am to Tiguar
Thanks. Have you seen any breakthrough hospitalizations of those who previously had Covid?
On a related issue, I hear about the “spike protein” is being found all around the body and not just at the injection site. Is that something to be concerned with or not?
On a related issue, I hear about the “spike protein” is being found all around the body and not just at the injection site. Is that something to be concerned with or not?
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:38 am to BRIllini07
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if you get symptomatic covid 19 while vaccinated you can (in theory - not confirmed) spread it just like if you were unvaccinated
There is a published study that confirms even asymptomatic and fully vaccinated people have passed the Delta variant among themselves
92 fully vaccinated attendees (required by hosts for attendance)
Outdoor wedding setting
6 cases detected
1 death
2 ICU hospitalizations
3 Delta positives
Posted on 8/1/21 at 5:59 am to STEVED00
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If the vast majority were just minor symptoms then what does that say.
Now do corona virus. You know, the one where people needed a test result to tell them they had it.
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