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re: New CATS Routes Invading St. George

Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:53 pm to
O and the SG supporters are starting to act like those kids that go around the beaches during spring break wanting to talk to you about Jesus and the how you can be saved.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:03 am to
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You suppose you have overwhelming approval from the lot, and you don't. And no, I don't think they're hateful, but I do think what I said is true, and it's out of ignorance and being brought up here and never leaving it.



...says the racist.

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bullshite. The city is nothing but low density and a shitload of prime real estate remains untapped and unpopulated in and around downtown as we speak. And it's not dangerous.


You are right. There are no crime problems in Baton Rouge, and the school system is fantastic. The flight that you so frequently refer to is simply a reflection of irrational behavior.

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YOU do it by showing interest in it and fixing it back up, this reclaiming it from the abyss it's become because people lost interest in it. That it just happens to be an area of a city that should be the most valuable real estate in the city, or it is in most every other city on this planet. It can be here as well. We just have to get our heads out our own asses


You can't do it. It's proven. That's the great thing about freedom and capitalism. If there was a likelihood of a positive outcome, many would invest. We know that's not happening. And, it's because people like you aren't fixing the issues that are preventing it.

On the other hand, you are seeing a real grass roots movement in St. George. People are doing exactly what you wished was being done in Baton Rouge. You are just on the wrong side of the fence.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 12:04 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:09 am to
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...says the racist.


Hey, you know what? That's enough. I've more than explained myself and my words so that any rational adult that has a mature brain could clearly understand. You apparently think you have some trump card here that makes up for your lack of firepower in your arguments, and it does not. you're becoming that little gnat now.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:10 am to
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Hey, you know what? That's enough. I've more than explained myself and my words so that any rational adult that has a mature brain could clearly understand.


...says the guy who called all St. George supporters racists.

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You apparently think you have some trump card here that makes up for your lack of firepower in your arguments, and it does not. you're becoming that little gnat now.


Irony
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:13 am to
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...says the guy who called all St. George supporters racists


I said it's racially motivated, and to a very large degree I think it is. I don't think they necessarily hate blacks, but I do think they want to hold on to a white area of town. You don't think that's at play here?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:14 am to
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what's hilarious about that, is that in most places in this country it's the younger generations pushing to move back to the urban areas of their cities, but not here, apparently it's old farts like me that get the reasoning behind that, and younger people like you who are going in the opposite direction of the rest of the country. I'm fricked up?



Young people typically are attracted to the city. When they have families, they look for space, green areas, and safety. I've never understood the hate for this natural progression.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:16 am to
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Young people typically are attracted to the city. When they have families, they look for space, green areas, and safety. I've never understood the hate for this natural progression.


I don't hate it. I just don't really see much of it here. Do you? Some, yes, but in numbers? I think the numbers lean very heavily toward going to the burbs by the young here once they graduate college.

Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:17 am to
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St. George loves its black residents.


Gardere and St Jean says hello
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:18 am to
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I said it's racially motivated, and to a very large degree I think it is. I don't think they necessarily hate blacks, but I do think they want to hold on to a white area of town. You don't think that's at play here?



It's about good schools primarily, and secondarily crime.

People already live in St. George. You are conflating suburban sprawl with the St. George incorporation effort. St. George already exists to the tune of 100K+ people.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:19 am to
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secondarily crime


So, what insulates you from this crime in St. George?

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You are conflating suburban sprawl with the St. George incorporation effort.


St. George IS suburban sprawl. What are you talking about? It's suburban neighborhood after suburban neighborhood trying to operate like a city, and it can't because it wasn't designed to be a city, but a grouping of suburban neighborhoods, which is how it came into existence.

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 12:23 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:20 am to
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Young people typically are attracted to the city. When they have families, they look for space, green areas, and safety. I've never understood the hate for this natural progression.



The great thing about freedom is you don't have to hate either.

The problem here is that the St. George area is holding up its end of the bargain for those who are looking for suburban living, but Baton Rouge is devolving into an unattractive option for the people who would naturally choose a more urban environment.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:20 am to
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So, what insulates you from this crime in St. George?



What insulates me now?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:21 am to
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I don't hate it. I just don't really see much of it here. Do you? Some, yes, but in numbers? I think the numbers lean very heavily toward going to the burbs by the young here once they graduate college.



It's a reflection of Baton Rouge, dude.

It's not because people here are just different than everyone else in the world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263069 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:22 am to
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I don't hate it. I just don't really see much of it here. Do you? Some, yes, but in numbers? I think the numbers lean very heavily toward going to the burbs by the young here once they graduate college.


Probably a quality of life and socioeconomic issue. People make race the easy scapegoat.

Everyone wants safety, security and quality of life. Living in the urban core makes more sense in Manhattan than it does Baton Rouge.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:24 am to
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St. George IS suburban sprawl. What are you talking about? It's suburban neighborhood after suburban neighborhood trying to operate like a city, and it can't because it wasn't designed to be a city, but a grouping of suburban neighborhoods, which is how it came into existence.



That is meaningless. It already exists. If those people want to incorporate into a single city, they should be able to do so.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:25 am to
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It's not because people here are just different than everyone else in the world


Not in this region, no, but in the world, yes, they are. In comparison to the country, yes, the region is very different in that dynamic. It's stuck in the past as it is on most everything. Surely this isn't news that change is really really slow in Making its way here in pretty much everything known to man.

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 12:26 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:27 am to
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That is meaningless. It already exists. If those people want to incorporate into a single city, they should be able to do so.


So, for shits and giggles, where exactly would you say this city's downtown is?




This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 12:28 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:28 am to
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In comparison to the country, yes, the region is very different in that dynamic. It's stuck in the past as it is on most everything. Surely this isn't news that change is really really slow in Making its way here in pretty much everything known to man.



People who want an urban lifestyle are leaving Baton Rouge because it doesn't offer what they want. They are going to bigger/better cities.

It's not because people are backwards here. Very, very ignorant.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56913 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:29 am to
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So, for shits and giggles, where exactly would you say this city's downtown is?



who cares?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:29 am to
Something must be done about these Obama busses destroying our communities.

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