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Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:51 pm to LemmyLives
quote:1. Have you read the article? (Not someone else's opinion of it, not a summary, but the actual report.)
We see dogs being trained to frick people all over the place, amirite?
2. We agree that's the most difficult aspect of the story to believe. (Again, assuming you've read it.) What if that's the only part of the story that turns out to be false and all the other parts are true? Keep in mind, we're never going to learn this through a court proceeding because this will never actually go to court.
3. This reminds me of my own "Oh, it can't be that bad" reaction to Abu Ghraib... before I saw the photos.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:55 pm to UFFan
NYT posting increasingly less adamant "we stand behind this" notes everyday on X doesn't seem like something you do if you don't think there are some vulnerabilities.
My best guess is that the NYT did its due diligence within an extremely biased circle of sources that contain enough elements to go "look, we talked to this and this and this type of source" but all of which are very aligned in their hatred of Israel.
From the OP's guardian article: “Details were extensively fact-checked, with accounts further cross-referenced with news reporting, independent research from human-rights groups, surveys and in one case, with U.N. testimony."
This could easily be accounts from Hamas sympathizers (almost a certainty) cross referenced with news reporting from Hamas-friendly sources, cross referenced with "independent human rights groups" like Amnesty and others that loathe Israel and support Hamas and UNRWA which is rabidly anti-Israel and almost certainly provided direct support to terrorists.
My best guess is that the NYT did its due diligence within an extremely biased circle of sources that contain enough elements to go "look, we talked to this and this and this type of source" but all of which are very aligned in their hatred of Israel.
From the OP's guardian article: “Details were extensively fact-checked, with accounts further cross-referenced with news reporting, independent research from human-rights groups, surveys and in one case, with U.N. testimony."
This could easily be accounts from Hamas sympathizers (almost a certainty) cross referenced with news reporting from Hamas-friendly sources, cross referenced with "independent human rights groups" like Amnesty and others that loathe Israel and support Hamas and UNRWA which is rabidly anti-Israel and almost certainly provided direct support to terrorists.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its just strange how leftist worship Palestinians
You brought them up unprovoked and chose to make them the topic instead of addressing Israel’s countless killings of journalists (and children)
So it sounds like this may be a “you” problem
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:57 pm to TIGERHOLD
quote:I see that your definition of a hack is "someone who writes things that I wish weren't true, joins 48% of Americans in voting differently than me, and dislikes someone I like."
Kristof is a flaming lib and is 100% a hack. This is common knowledge.
You're free to have that definition, but it isn't a commonly used one.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:58 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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You brought them up unprovoked
I seem to have hit a nerve. Didnt think you were full-blown lefty, but hey, we learn something new every day.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:05 pm to Chuck Barris
A massive messenger for the broader Russia hoax, an ardent BLMer...
Just because he writes competently and is well educated doesn't mean I have to pretend he's not an ideological hack.
Just because he writes competently and is well educated doesn't mean I have to pretend he's not an ideological hack.
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