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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:00 pm to DCtiger1
quote:Notice I'm talking about the disproportionate weighting of spelling. Besides in seventh grade, they are typically focused on building written expression skills, not spelling skills. Spelling is a lower-order process--and can be easily corrected with editing--thus deserving less emphasis (at this age) from a curricular perspective.
Content is not purely an effort based skill. Some students, no matter what teaching you provide, will never be able to communicate their thoughts effectively, whether it be verbal or written. Why penalize those students?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:00 pm to DCtiger1
Double post.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:03 pm to arcalades
You have issues. Teach your kid to spell correctly and they won't have this problem.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:04 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:But disproportionately grading on spelling (still important mind you)--without time to proofread--rather than content is the issue. It's not a practical rubric.
Your question was just as pointless. Some people are smarter than others. shite happens. They still have to be graded just like anyone else
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:04 pm to DCtiger1
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So as long as the content is okay we should disregard spelling?
I'm a spelling Nazi, but the answer (within reason) is yes.
Once you get beyond learning grammar, teachers are supposed to mark off for bad grammar and poor spelling, but they don't deduct points unless it is dramatic.
Source: Took AP English all throughout high school and I graduated with an English degree from LSU. The only teachers that harp on the small things are teachers for other subjects (who don't seem to know how to recognize good writing) grading your paper.
7th graders are still young enough to be graded on grammar and spelling, but it shouldn't ruin their grade on a writing assignment unless the assignment is solely based on spelling/grammar.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:06 pm to buckeye_vol
You're taking the word of dipshit OP regarding the time to proof read. I always had time to look over spelling tests before passing them to the front. So unless his kid was the last one to finish, and since he's the "smartest in the class" according to everyone supposedly, he had time to catch such an obvious error.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:07 pm to LNCHBOX
I think it's pretty clear that the teacher was watching him fill out the test and not allowing any editing.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:09 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Well I only have his anecdote to judge the situation. Besides, I don't think it was a spelling test; it seems like it was a written prompt.
You're taking the word of dip shite OP regarding the time to proof read. I always had time to look over spelling tests before passing them to the front
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:10 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
But disproportionately grading on spelling (still important mind you)--without time to proofread--rather than content is the issue. It's not a practical rubric.
Did the OP mention points taken off for content? How would you know its disproportionate if not?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:15 pm to DCtiger1
quote:Because he wrote 81 words, and lost 10 points solely because of a one letter omission. I mean a kid could have written 120 words, made 6 (95% correct) minor misspellings (for example, ie vs ei) and would have recieved a maximum of 40 points. Clearly there is a major weighting on spelling.
Did the OP mention points taken off for content? How would you know its disproportionate if not?
Or look at it this way. He correctly spelled 98.7% of his words correctly and had no points taken off for content (100% content score). No may we how you weight it, one spelling error costing 10% of a grade is overboard.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:21 pm to buckeye_vol
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Clearly there is a major weighting on spelling.
Do we know what the object of this assignment was? What if it was a spelling assignment?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:24 pm to DCtiger1
quote:If it was a spelling assignment then shouldn't his grade be a 98.7? That means each correctly written word is worth +1.25 points but each incorrectly spelled words is with -10 points.
Do we know what the object of this assignment was? What if it was a spelling assignment?
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:33 pm to arcalades
Ha
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:33 pm to buckeye_vol
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Because he wrote 81 words, and lost 10 points solely because of a one letter omission. I mean a kid could have written 120 words, made 6 (95% correct) minor misspellings (for example, ie vs ei) and would have recieved a maximum of 40 points. Clearly there is a major weighting on spelling.
Or look at it this way. He correctly spelled 98.7% of his words correctly and had no points taken off for content (100% content score). No may we how you weight it, one spelling error costing 10% of a grade is overboard.
Do you realize that your short little post here contains just over 90 words? If you can't get through 80-90 words without misspelling something, then it seems pretty reasonable for it to cost you 10 points.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:36 pm to arcalades
Yay!!! I was downvotes 100!!!!
And tell your little illiterate failure of a son that reading and writing will get him a lot further in life than bitching and moaning.
And tell your little illiterate failure of a son that reading and writing will get him a lot further in life than bitching and moaning.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:37 pm to buckeye_vol
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If it was a spelling assignment then shouldn't his grade be a 98.7? That means each correctly written word is worth +1.25 points but each incorrectly spelled words is with -10 points.
No. All words aren't the same. There were probably only 10 words out of the 80 that anyone that isn't a simpleton might misspell. So it is probably weighted about right.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:38 pm to arcalades
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ever heard of auto correct?
Aren't you smarter than auto correct?
Sorry, that was a dumb question.
You're not.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:39 pm to sandwolf
As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, this is not unusual for 7th grade. I remember my teachers really stressing the whole "You're not in elementary school anymore" thing and we were given some pretty brutal assignments compared to what we were used to. The same thing will happen in 9th grade and in their freshman year of college. It's called a wake up call and I'm very thankful I had teachers who did that to me
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:52 pm to arcalades
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Typing on a message board is not indication of anything.
You left out a word. Typing on a message board is not an indication of anything.
Way to go.
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