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re: my son just got 90 days for a .5 oz of weed

Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:54 pm to
I can't believe I'm looking up South Carolina criminal procedure during my lunch break, but this piqued my interest, and I didn't know the answer. Here's South Carolina Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 16:
quote:

PRESENCE OF ACCUSED AT TRIAL

Except in cases wherein capital punishment is a permissible sentence, a person indicted for misdemeanors and/or felonies may voluntarily waive his right to be present and may be tried in his absence upon a finding by the court that such person has received notice of his right to be present and that a warning was given that the trial would proceed in his absence upon a failure to attend the court.

Also a South Carolina case discussing permissible trials in absentia:
quote:

Although the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution guarantees the right of a criminal defendant to be present at trial, this right may be waived. Ellis v. State, 267 S.C. 257, 260, 227 S.E.2d 304, 305 (1976); State v. Fairey, 374 S.C. 92, 99, 646 S.E.2d 445, 448 (Ct. App. 2007).

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The trial court must determine the defendant voluntarily waived his right to be present. Id. In addition, the trial court must make factual findings that the defendant (1) received notice of his right to be present; and (2) was warned that the trial would proceed in his absence upon his failure to attend. Id.

Notice of the term of court in which the defendant will be tried is sufficient to enable the defendant to make an effective waiver of his right to be present. Ellis, 267 S.C. at 261, 227 S.E.2d at 306. But if the record does not reveal evidence that the defendant was given notice of his trial, the resulting conviction in absentia cannot stand. State v. Jackson, 290 S.C. 435, 436, 351 S.E.2d 167, 167 (1986).

State v. O'Donald

Despite this, my guess is even if the judge moved the OP's son to the end of the docket, he would have gotten a similar sentence once he showed up late. Two speeding ticket trials pending and then you get popped for a half ounce of marijuana, and then you're late to court. Not exactly respecting the process.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18533 posts
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

I can't believe I'm looking up South Carolina criminal procedure during my lunch break


quote:

10:54 p.m.


You in Asia?


Good research counselor. I guess the issue becomes if he was properly informed that they would proceed without him. If his service and failure to show as a proper "waiver," and I'd still like to know if he at least had an attorney.
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
4208 posts
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Trashy


Because anyone who smokes pot is trashy, right? How about your relatives that smoke or have smoked cigarettes? Trash too?


Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
3494 posts
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:17 pm to
Yeah 1pm Thursday. I followed up on this because I guessed what happened when this thread first started but was off base once we got more details.

I don't know he has a right to counsel on these misdemeanors, The consecutive sentence on all three is still less than 6 months, but some states you have a right to counsel if substantial or any jail time is a possible outcome of the misdemeanor trial.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49800 posts
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:49 pm to
Let me agree with Internet lawyer 1, as I remind him that our malpractice coverage doesn't cover us giving advice over the web particularly in states that we are not allowed to practice, it is almost certain he pissed off the judge, and was perceived as being disrespectful.

Let me tell you a little known evil secret of the misdemeanor criminal system. A bunch of little shite can ruin your life and put in jail for most of it. You get a few bullshite charges, then don't pay restitution and you are in the system, again and again you get picked up and do time. Fines go up, you cant get job because you are in jail, you cant pay fines, etc and you are in perfect Catch 22 situation etc. Welcome to the jungle.

Now unless he wants to be in and out of jail the rest of his life you need to act now. I would recommend getting a lawyer if you don't know one and trying to get in drug diversion program or something asap.

You son needs a new attitude about the Criminal Justice system, it will eat him up and spit him out in pieces. Happens a thousand times a day. Better to be a rich murderer than a innocent poor man with a public defender.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 2:08 am
Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
3494 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 12:04 am to
quote:

Let me agree with Internet lawyer 1, as I remind him that our malpractice coverage doesn't cover us giving advice over the web particularly in states that we are not allowed to practice,

Okay good reminder, I thought I had room to comment on the procedure of what happened without recommending any further courses of action.

And good remarks after that.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 12:06 am
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 12:09 am to
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No fricks to the shite talkers. Im pretty heartbroken my boy has to sit in county jail 3 months over 14g of fricking pot

I dont even smoke weed and the lunacy of this shite is evident to me

Rough night at casa de chef



thats a lot of weed you dumbass
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24662 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 12:28 am to
Let me know if your boy has some weed he's looking to get rid of.
Posted by bloupe2
Member since Apr 2011
2857 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:09 am to
I got caught with 5pounds of pot and over 500 pills and lots of cash. I'm still a walking free man. Did he have public defender?

Edit. I obviously bonded myself out 2 days later but got all 5 felonies reduced. Years and years of court dates and bs etc etc

This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 1:17 am
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 1:25 am to
Sounds like your Son had a contempt of court warrant out since he missed a court date, Strike one!

Taking Grandmas car out for a joyride and leaving the police trailing when he didn't pull over = Felony eluding

The 90 days handed down by the judge was a gift.

Moreover, you should've hired a goddamn lawyer to help your kid.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49800 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:10 am to
Better to have 5 lbs than 5 ozs. We all know you can get your hands on money unless you are a mule. U will have the first installment ($9500) of retainer that you will need to be walking the streets again.
Posted by bloupe2
Member since Apr 2011
2857 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:14 am to
I've learned my lesson to say the least. I've spent tens of thousands on a lawyer. But he's kept my behind out of jail
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:01 am to
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This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 8:03 am
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7496 posts
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:18 am to
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