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Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:43 pm to USMCTiger03
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LATiger (from the Poli board) could give so much useful information on this topic.
RIP, e-friend.
This. He fully admitted it was sinful activity and it really consumed him before he turned away from it all.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:44 pm to Paige
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I don't have a problem with people thinking it's a sin
but you don't?
What is your official position?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:45 pm to Moustache
quote:Almost every one of them? You gather that from a list of a dozen people? shite, I had the same childhood issues as 3 of them, and I would imagine a whole hell of a lot of the rest of the straight population has, as well.
Almost every gay celebrity had an environmental childhood issue or grew up without a father figure.
That's not to say trauma doesn't affect people, because it obviously does and I'm sure some gay people are gay because of it. Environmental factors obviously play a huge role in who we turn out to be, but so do genetics and other factors out of anyone's control. And you can point out people who turned gay later in life or claim to have chosen to be gay or any other things that make you believe it is "100% a choice", but none of that changes the fact that the vast majority of gay people simply cannot be anything other than gay. I mean, have you ever talked to a gay person? Or are you afraid of them or something?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:45 pm to mouton
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Moustache, would you have a problem with a gay man babysitting your male children?
Yes. It'd be the same problem I would have with someone who is an admitted thief or someone who is promiscuous.
It's sinful behavior, and I want my children to get their morals from what the Lord says is righteous, not what society says.
Would I hate that person? No of course not. Would I still hire that person to work for my company? If they had the skills to do so.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:46 pm to Moustache
Moustache I am amazed that you believe that people choose who they are attracted to. Actually I dont believe you are this stupid.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:48 pm to mouton
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Moustache I am amazed that you believe that people choose who they are attracted to. Actually I dont believe you are this stupid.
Why does that make him stupid? It's his opinion. Everybody is entitled to them. Including you. Why do you immediately turn to insults?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:49 pm to Korkstand
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You gather that from a list of a dozen people? shite, I had the same childhood issues as 3 of them, and I would imagine a whole hell of a lot of the rest of the straight population has, as well.
You are confusing correlation with causation. I believe the main driving environmental factor is having a great relationship with the father figure of their childhood. Some people manifest their father issues in many different ways.
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I mean, have you ever talked to a gay person? Or are you afraid of them or something?
I've talked to many gay people. I was in the LSU band, so as you can imagine, there were lots of gay people. Did I straight up ask them if they can help being gay? No, because it's none of my business. If they asked my opinion, I would state that it is a sin. Other than that, I didn't' treat them with a sense of intrigue or novelty, because they're just normal people like me who struggle with a different sin than I struggle with.
also, how come every time a person refuses to believe that one can be born "gay" they are accused of being "afraid" of them or gay themselves? It's extremely juvenile.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:49 pm to Korkstand
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I mean, have you ever talked to a gay person? Or are you afraid of them or something?
I think awkwardness is a better term to describe it than fear.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:50 pm to TXGunslinger10
Im sorry it is a stupid opinion. It is completely illogical.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:51 pm to mouton
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Moustache I am amazed that you believe that people choose who they are attracted to. Actually I dont believe you are this stupid.
I'm stupid because I believe some people choose who they're attracted to? You have no scientific leg to stand on for your assertion other than your feelings, which are illogical seeing as how we evolved to reproduce female and male.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:52 pm to mouton
And that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Sorry I know I'm using you as an example, but it's impossible to have intelligent discourse over a subject like this because everyone who doesn't agree with the popular viewpoint is stupid, a bigot, a homophobe, etc.
Sorry I know I'm using you as an example, but it's impossible to have intelligent discourse over a subject like this because everyone who doesn't agree with the popular viewpoint is stupid, a bigot, a homophobe, etc.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:53 pm to mouton
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Im sorry it is a stupid opinion. It is completely illogical.
Go see cynthia Nixon's comments when she decided to stop having sex with men and having kids and become a lesbian. She fully said it was a choice for her.
Seems like for some people it is a choice, just like I stated. You're being illogical by ignoring evidence and going off your feelings.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:54 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
I think first and foremost you should apologize to your son for making him watch the 7th round of the draft.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:54 pm to Moustache
I think lust is something that happens "chemically". or naturally.
You see a woman you think is hot, your heart starts racing a little bit and your mind goes off track
But attraction is not limited to physical.
You see a woman you think is hot, your heart starts racing a little bit and your mind goes off track
But attraction is not limited to physical.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:54 pm to Displaced
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if homosexuals are genetically driven to be attracted to members of the same sex, how can it be so farfetched that some individuals are genetically driven to be sexually attracted to children?
It's the ham-handed attempt at equating the two which is the issue.
I'd agree that pedophiles are almost certainly wired that way. And? Saying that does not in any way mean that since they have no control over who they are attracted to it means the behavior is ok.
And...in case it's not clear as to why, here goes:
Because pedophiles are having feelings toward/acting their attractions on/with children who based on their age are not in a position to consent. because of that, they need to be removed from society so that they can not harm those who they want to act out their feelings with who can not give consent. In short, their partners are victims.
Whereas homosexual sex involves two adults in a consensual act. There are no victims.
I'm failing to see the argument being made here.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:54 pm to Moustache
quote:I didn't accuse you of being afraid, I asked if you were afraid.
also, how come every time a person refuses to believe that one can be born "gay" they are accused of being "afraid" of them or gay themselves? It's extremely juvenile.
It's just that if you ever decide to have a real conversation with a gay person about their sexuality, you might be convinced that it's not a choice.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:55 pm to Swoopin
My whole beef with all of this is that the draft pick was staged as shite.
I'd like to know (in the cake pic) how he managed to be wearing a brand new Rams cap 90 seconds after being selected.
That whole display made the draft a mockery and a joke IMO
I'd like to know (in the cake pic) how he managed to be wearing a brand new Rams cap 90 seconds after being selected.
That whole display made the draft a mockery and a joke IMO
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:56 pm to Swoopin
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I think first and foremost you should apologize to your son for making him watch the 7th round of the draft.
This should've been said much earlier.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:56 pm to ApexTiger
quote:That's fair, and I agree. I have said some things in this thread that I intended to come across as insulting, but that question wasn't one of them.
I think awkwardness is a better term to describe it than fear.
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