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My Hurricane-Inspired Tribute to The Mongrel Roof
Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:51 am
This began as a GMT post - but it evolved beyond that while drinking some lemonade and catching myself up on the latest Irma variables. A handful of posts in that storm's dedicated thread (as well as many from prior storm "in-game" collective experiences) are by people who are facing the imminent destruction of something they've endeavored to manifest - A new home... custom built from the ground up and was unique in one or every way because it was determined by that individual/family while it was still just ink on paper.
That brought me to the one thing I know I know re: MY home should I ever decide to build where hurricanes tend to frequent. A thing I know thanks to seeing first-hand the aftermath of multiple major hurricanes over the years...
A well-constructed Mansard Roof is worth its weight in gold. And by gold I mean trees.
* My parents' place on the Northshore (Katrina)
* My uncle's "primary house" near Tampa (Wilma: 2005 Cat3) preceded by...
* My uncle's "other house" in Punta Gorda, FL (Charley: 2004 Cat4)
* A cousin's in Pensacola (Ivan: 2004 Cat3)
* A different cousin's in Chesapeake VA (Isabel: 2003 Strong Cat2)
* Many family friends in LA and MS (Andrew: 1992 Cat4)
My uncle lived in Florida most of his adult life and he dabbled in homebuilding among other things. He was a mansard roof stalwart and when my parents started planning their "dream house" in 1990 - he followed his brother's advice. So did Uncle B's line of the family when it came time to build.
My folks chose their collaborating architects and builders carefully. They invested in the bones of the the house, the roof in particular - and it paid off. It was pretty striking to behold. The gentleman my parents went with built 7 homes in the neighborhood over the years (of @300 homes - all custom built). There were AT LEAST 4 tornadoes that hit my parents' neighborhood during Katrina. Satellite aftermath images showed paths of 3 of them clearly. The damage was pretty much unilateral for most of our immediate neighbors and adjacent streets... but my parents' place - and those other 6... if you didn't know the common thread- you'd assume "Well they just got lucky."
There were houses with trees IN them... and houses with trees just kinda ON them...leaning. I shite you not. And I saw it over and over every time family went to help family.
So here's to an architectural unsung hero: The Mansard Roof
July 2005
September 2005
Please note:
- Yes it's a true Mansard - It's hard to see from the front but the angle does change above the eaves.
- The treeline behind the house in July and then September. Most of that was twisted together like wicker and leaning against the roof and the back of the house. Except for the Magnolia - That frickin' thing was just GONE. Nowhere in sight.
Also a tip of the cap to those steep-roof crew guys in a non-medal event: The shingling while rappelling biathlon
ETA:
Title adjusted
That brought me to the one thing I know I know re: MY home should I ever decide to build where hurricanes tend to frequent. A thing I know thanks to seeing first-hand the aftermath of multiple major hurricanes over the years...
A well-constructed Mansard Roof is worth its weight in gold. And by gold I mean trees.
* My parents' place on the Northshore (Katrina)
* My uncle's "primary house" near Tampa (Wilma: 2005 Cat3) preceded by...
* My uncle's "other house" in Punta Gorda, FL (Charley: 2004 Cat4)
* A cousin's in Pensacola (Ivan: 2004 Cat3)
* A different cousin's in Chesapeake VA (Isabel: 2003 Strong Cat2)
* Many family friends in LA and MS (Andrew: 1992 Cat4)
My uncle lived in Florida most of his adult life and he dabbled in homebuilding among other things. He was a mansard roof stalwart and when my parents started planning their "dream house" in 1990 - he followed his brother's advice. So did Uncle B's line of the family when it came time to build.
My folks chose their collaborating architects and builders carefully. They invested in the bones of the the house, the roof in particular - and it paid off. It was pretty striking to behold. The gentleman my parents went with built 7 homes in the neighborhood over the years (of @300 homes - all custom built). There were AT LEAST 4 tornadoes that hit my parents' neighborhood during Katrina. Satellite aftermath images showed paths of 3 of them clearly. The damage was pretty much unilateral for most of our immediate neighbors and adjacent streets... but my parents' place - and those other 6... if you didn't know the common thread- you'd assume "Well they just got lucky."
There were houses with trees IN them... and houses with trees just kinda ON them...leaning. I shite you not. And I saw it over and over every time family went to help family.
So here's to an architectural unsung hero: The Mansard Roof
July 2005
September 2005
Please note:
- Yes it's a true Mansard - It's hard to see from the front but the angle does change above the eaves.
- The treeline behind the house in July and then September. Most of that was twisted together like wicker and leaning against the roof and the back of the house. Except for the Magnolia - That frickin' thing was just GONE. Nowhere in sight.
Also a tip of the cap to those steep-roof crew guys in a non-medal event: The shingling while rappelling biathlon
ETA:
Title adjusted
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 9:33 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 7:57 am to yurintroubl
wasted a good portion of my time
here
gotta say this is the first Roof Appreciation Thread I've ever
seen
you may have just won most obscure topic thread of the year
here
gotta say this is the first Roof Appreciation Thread I've ever
seen
you may have just won most obscure topic thread of the year
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:03 am to yurintroubl
quote:
Mansard Roof
It's a great song too....imho...
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:16 am to Emteein
Stu - I'm happy to be a small reminder that there is still undiscovered territory out there. Even in this harsh environment.
Emteein - I do. My uncle's in Tampa is a textbook Victorian style. The one pictured is adapted to a modern Acadian style - There are 3BR, 2B and a living room up there...and a walk-in 2-story attic. The framing up there is VERY cool.
Notro - That song played on the cable radio where I worked for a while - but I could never make out the words over the hubub. Never in a million years would have guessed.
Emteein - I do. My uncle's in Tampa is a textbook Victorian style. The one pictured is adapted to a modern Acadian style - There are 3BR, 2B and a living room up there...and a walk-in 2-story attic. The framing up there is VERY cool.
Notro - That song played on the cable radio where I worked for a while - but I could never make out the words over the hubub. Never in a million years would have guessed.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:28 am to yurintroubl
I thought that was a hip roof. At least that's what we called it when we built the houses.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:32 am to yurintroubl
That doesn't look like a mansard to me...looks like a hip roof w/ gable on the right side.
This is a mansard:

This is a mansard:

Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:33 am to yurintroubl
Not so subtle brag that you have a house with a roof.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:36 am to yurintroubl
My first house I had during Katrina was built in '48.. It had a gable roof with 2x6 rafters that were 1' apart, with 1x6 roof slats... Thing didn't budge...
It was built to last...
It was built to last...
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:38 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:
That doesn't look like a mansard to me...looks like a hip roof w/ gable on the right side.
Correct.
Mansard is more common on commercial buildings. The roof in the OP looks much more like a hip roof to me, but the garage features a gable roof. It's not uncommon for production housing to feature mismatched designs like that.
There has been a trend in Baton Rouge since the late 1960s to build homes with hip roofs with a flared out overhang. Nick-name was the Baton Rouge bell. I think it was a knock off of A Hayes Town setups from that era. There are a lot of them in Bocage, along Goodwood, the nicer sections of Broadmoor, and CCLA. It's still a hip roof.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:40 am to TheBoo
quote:
Not so subtle brag that you have a house with a roof.
It's more than that - I'm RELATED to people that have a house with a roof.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:48 am to yurintroubl
Not so subtle brag that you have a house
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:55 am to Tiger Prawn
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:58 am to yurintroubl
I mean if a hurricane with 175 mph winds wants to throw a big fricking tree through your roof it's gonna happen.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:01 am to member12
I am obviously not in the know like some of y'all - I just know how this house started on paper and was morphed along the way to where it is now. What my parents wanted an how it was adapted. I have heard it described as a hip roof before by people "style shopping" the neighborhood.
It's a mongrel of Mansard framing that's been "capped" Acadian aesthetically.
It's a mongrel of Mansard framing that's been "capped" Acadian aesthetically.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:01 am to yurintroubl
Thats not a fricking Mansard roof.............
Dam..........
Dam..........
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:12 am to yurintroubl
Don't know if this helps or makes me "more wrong" but I'm going to include this for "scope" n whatnot...
Can at least see some better angles and how the side opposite the garage is shaped.

Can at least see some better angles and how the side opposite the garage is shaped.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:14 am to yurintroubl
Looks like a hip roof with a gable over the garage.
A mansard would historically be a lot more steep at first and a much more severe change in angle.
A mansard would historically be a lot more steep at first and a much more severe change in angle.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:14 am to terd ferguson
quote:
terd ferguson
I love you, too. Missed you when you were gone.
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