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Moving to Beaufort / Bluffton / Savannah area
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:06 am
Can someone teach me about these areas.
Best places to live, best schools, etc?
Thank you.
ETA: Job is in Savannah so if there are any places I’m overlooking, please let me know.
Best places to live, best schools, etc?
Thank you.
ETA: Job is in Savannah so if there are any places I’m overlooking, please let me know.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:08 am to fitz
Beautiful area. You’ll enjoy it.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:09 am to fitz
quote:
Savannah
Historic district is beautiful. The rest of that dump is the world's largest ghetto. IMHO.
Don't eat at Paula Deen's. Hell, I make a better pot pie than her restaurant.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:10 am to fitz
Lowcountry boil
Enjoy them!
Enjoy them!
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 11:11 am
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:10 am to Zip Monkey
We don’t plan on living there. Would prefer to live outside the city.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:16 am to fitz
quote:
Savannah
Do you have kids?
Can you afford private school?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:17 am to fitz
If you can afford it, and I mean that because prices are astronomical, look at Wilmington Island. Easy commute into downtown and good schools/low crime/places to eat, drink, shop. I lived there a few years as a kid and it was fantastic. Buy a boat, it’s on the intercoastal with tons of little islands off the coast.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:20 am to Paul Allen
Bacteria up 3,150% in Bluffton’s May River in less than 20 years. How did we get here?
BY KACEN BAYLESS
DECEMBER 08, 2019 04:00 AM
Executive chef Mike Sigler shares restaurant's recipe for rack of lamb BY DREW MARTIN
A little more than a decade ago, the former director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Marine Laboratory gave a grim warning to Bluffton’s leaders: If the town’s rate of building and development continued, it would seriously damage local waters and hurt shellfishing in the May River.
“You can’t create the habitat once it’s gone,” Fred Holland told the Town Council in 2009. “You can bring it back to something different, and maybe it’ll be better, but you can’t get back what you lose.”
A recent study at the University of South Carolina-Beaufort, commissioned by Bluffton and Beaufort County, found what Holland and other environmental activists have predicted for decades: Bluffton’s building and population boom has resulted in less green space available to absorb rain, so the rain runs into the May River, lowering the river’s salinity and allowing fecal coliform bacteria to thrive.
More of Beaufort will flood amid stronger storms and
higher seas. What a new report says
Lower concentrations of salt and higher levels of fecal bacteria — an indicator that other disease-causing organisms could be present — put the area’s marine life at risk.
Eric Montie, an associate professor of biology at USCB, will present the findings of his study to Bluffton Town Council on Tuesday.
For many longtime Bluffton residents, the May River is part of life. The river, a tidal embayment which flows along Old Town’s southern border, is a source of food, a site for recreation, a salve for the soul. It is one of Beaufort County’s 12 Outstanding Resource Waters — bodies of water that provide an important recreational or ecological resource.
However, as development continues to put pressure on the area’s fragile ecosystem, many residents worry about what will happen to the river, and whether the town and Beaufort County are doing enough to protect it.
Michael Finewood, assistant professor of Environmental Studies and Sciences at Pace University, wrote in a 2012 study about development in Bluffton that the “health of the May River has become an important indicator of the soundness of development practices and related high property values.”
Protecting the May River and other surrounding watersheds has long been a goal of Lowcountry environmental activists who, beginning in the 1970s, pressured local officials to adopt some of the state’s strongest stormwater and environmental protections.
In 1996, citizens organized the Beaufort County Clean Water Task Force to study the sources and effects of pollution in Broad Creek on Hilton Head Island after all the creek’s oyster beds were closed for shellfish harvesting. A year later, the task force submitted its final report, “A Blueprint for Clean Water,” with guidelines and recommendations for Beaufort County, Hilton Head, Bluffton, Port Royal and Beaufort.
Of the recommendations, the task force listed 10 “that merit special attention.” These steps include increasing to 95% from 80% the amount of pollutants in outstanding resource waters that have to be captured in rain runoff from new developments. They also recommend establishing progressive land-use policies that favor clusters of homes surrounded by open space to reduce impervious surfaces near watersheds.
“If the Beaufort County citizenry and our public officials ... do not accomplish these ‘ten steps to clean water,’ we fear that the gradual decline of our near-pristine waterways is inevitable,” the report said.
The report, now 23 years old, states that shellfish are the “canary of the Lowcountry’s waterways. If the shellfish is in trouble, we suspect that much more is awry, or soon will be.”
Over the years, Beaufort County and local municipalities have adopted stormwater utilities and other management plans to keep the environment clean, including spending over $1 million since 2009 to monitor water quality in the May River watershed.
Debbie Szpanka, Bluffton’s spokesperson, said the town’s total investment in the May River watershed is “most likely near $10 million.”
In 2002, the U.S. Geological Survey, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the S.C. Department of Natural Resources began a two-year study of the May River that provided baseline information on the water quality of the river prior to an impending development boom.
“The May River represents a significant estuary in Beaufort County that may be adversely affected by planned developments that will result in major land-use changes,” the study’s introduction said.
That study was designed to allow the Town of Bluffton “to detect and correct any adverse changes that may occur with development of the May River watershed.”
The study found that, in 2002 and 2003, “most of the May River estuarine habitats” were “in good condition, although several headwater creeks showed some signs of stress.”
In 2007, the S.C. Department of Health and Environmental Control reported that fecal coliform levels were rising in the May River headwaters as the rate of development increased, and the town adopted its first stormwater ordinance and design manual, which required all new developments to monitor their effect on the river’s water quality.
Two years later, the town and Beaufort County established a water-quality monitoring laboratory and program with USCB. Every year, Bluffton and Beaufort County each pay $120,000 for the lab. In 2011, the town created its May River Watershed Action Plan — an evolving document that measures conditions and trends in the river.
Montie’s USCB study found that Bluffton’s rampant development led to fecal coliform levels in the May River that were 15 to 16 times greater in 2017 than in 1999. One DHEC monitoring station found that bacteria levels had increased 3,150%.
Fecal coliform bacteria, which typically originates from the intestines of warm-blooded animals, are analyzed by agencies like DHEC to determine whether disease-causing organisms are present in the water.
Bacteria levels directly affect oyster harvesting.
If fecal coliform levels exceed a certain number, shellfish harvesting beds are restricted or closed. According to DHEC’s shellfish monitoring map, a majority of the May River’s headwaters — from Stony Creek to the mouth of the river — are closed for shellfish harvesting.
In 2002, those same headwaters were considered to have “good” water quality, according to the baseline study.
Oyster season starts in October and runs through May.
LINK
BY KACEN BAYLESS
DECEMBER 08, 2019 04:00 AM
Executive chef Mike Sigler shares restaurant's recipe for rack of lamb BY DREW MARTIN
A little more than a decade ago, the former director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Marine Laboratory gave a grim warning to Bluffton’s leaders: If the town’s rate of building and development continued, it would seriously damage local waters and hurt shellfishing in the May River.
“You can’t create the habitat once it’s gone,” Fred Holland told the Town Council in 2009. “You can bring it back to something different, and maybe it’ll be better, but you can’t get back what you lose.”
A recent study at the University of South Carolina-Beaufort, commissioned by Bluffton and Beaufort County, found what Holland and other environmental activists have predicted for decades: Bluffton’s building and population boom has resulted in less green space available to absorb rain, so the rain runs into the May River, lowering the river’s salinity and allowing fecal coliform bacteria to thrive.
More of Beaufort will flood amid stronger storms and
higher seas. What a new report says
Lower concentrations of salt and higher levels of fecal bacteria — an indicator that other disease-causing organisms could be present — put the area’s marine life at risk.
Eric Montie, an associate professor of biology at USCB, will present the findings of his study to Bluffton Town Council on Tuesday.
For many longtime Bluffton residents, the May River is part of life. The river, a tidal embayment which flows along Old Town’s southern border, is a source of food, a site for recreation, a salve for the soul. It is one of Beaufort County’s 12 Outstanding Resource Waters — bodies of water that provide an important recreational or ecological resource.
However, as development continues to put pressure on the area’s fragile ecosystem, many residents worry about what will happen to the river, and whether the town and Beaufort County are doing enough to protect it.
Michael Finewood, assistant professor of Environmental Studies and Sciences at Pace University, wrote in a 2012 study about development in Bluffton that the “health of the May River has become an important indicator of the soundness of development practices and related high property values.”
Protecting the May River and other surrounding watersheds has long been a goal of Lowcountry environmental activists who, beginning in the 1970s, pressured local officials to adopt some of the state’s strongest stormwater and environmental protections.
In 1996, citizens organized the Beaufort County Clean Water Task Force to study the sources and effects of pollution in Broad Creek on Hilton Head Island after all the creek’s oyster beds were closed for shellfish harvesting. A year later, the task force submitted its final report, “A Blueprint for Clean Water,” with guidelines and recommendations for Beaufort County, Hilton Head, Bluffton, Port Royal and Beaufort.
Of the recommendations, the task force listed 10 “that merit special attention.” These steps include increasing to 95% from 80% the amount of pollutants in outstanding resource waters that have to be captured in rain runoff from new developments. They also recommend establishing progressive land-use policies that favor clusters of homes surrounded by open space to reduce impervious surfaces near watersheds.
“If the Beaufort County citizenry and our public officials ... do not accomplish these ‘ten steps to clean water,’ we fear that the gradual decline of our near-pristine waterways is inevitable,” the report said.
The report, now 23 years old, states that shellfish are the “canary of the Lowcountry’s waterways. If the shellfish is in trouble, we suspect that much more is awry, or soon will be.”
Over the years, Beaufort County and local municipalities have adopted stormwater utilities and other management plans to keep the environment clean, including spending over $1 million since 2009 to monitor water quality in the May River watershed.
Debbie Szpanka, Bluffton’s spokesperson, said the town’s total investment in the May River watershed is “most likely near $10 million.”
In 2002, the U.S. Geological Survey, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the S.C. Department of Natural Resources began a two-year study of the May River that provided baseline information on the water quality of the river prior to an impending development boom.
“The May River represents a significant estuary in Beaufort County that may be adversely affected by planned developments that will result in major land-use changes,” the study’s introduction said.
That study was designed to allow the Town of Bluffton “to detect and correct any adverse changes that may occur with development of the May River watershed.”
The study found that, in 2002 and 2003, “most of the May River estuarine habitats” were “in good condition, although several headwater creeks showed some signs of stress.”
In 2007, the S.C. Department of Health and Environmental Control reported that fecal coliform levels were rising in the May River headwaters as the rate of development increased, and the town adopted its first stormwater ordinance and design manual, which required all new developments to monitor their effect on the river’s water quality.
Two years later, the town and Beaufort County established a water-quality monitoring laboratory and program with USCB. Every year, Bluffton and Beaufort County each pay $120,000 for the lab. In 2011, the town created its May River Watershed Action Plan — an evolving document that measures conditions and trends in the river.
Montie’s USCB study found that Bluffton’s rampant development led to fecal coliform levels in the May River that were 15 to 16 times greater in 2017 than in 1999. One DHEC monitoring station found that bacteria levels had increased 3,150%.
Fecal coliform bacteria, which typically originates from the intestines of warm-blooded animals, are analyzed by agencies like DHEC to determine whether disease-causing organisms are present in the water.
Bacteria levels directly affect oyster harvesting.
If fecal coliform levels exceed a certain number, shellfish harvesting beds are restricted or closed. According to DHEC’s shellfish monitoring map, a majority of the May River’s headwaters — from Stony Creek to the mouth of the river — are closed for shellfish harvesting.
In 2002, those same headwaters were considered to have “good” water quality, according to the baseline study.
Oyster season starts in October and runs through May.
LINK
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:25 am to Zip Monkey
What’s the name of the breakfast/lunch place, Mrs something or other? Is that still open? Beats the hell out of Paula Deen’s.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:33 am to fitz
Maybe checkout Richmond Hill? School ratings look decent there and looks nice but I don't actually know the area. I only spent some time browsing Zillow awhile back looking for areas to relocate near Savannah and stumbled upon Richmond Hill.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:34 am to Priapus
The water in Savannah is literally slimy feeling.
When you shower no matter how long you rinse. It still feels like you're still slick with soap.
When you shower no matter how long you rinse. It still feels like you're still slick with soap.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:34 am to 777Tiger
quote:
What’s the name of the breakfast/lunch place, Mrs something or other? Is that still open? Beats the hell out of Paula Deen’s.
I don't know. I missed that one.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:47 am to fitz
The water tastes bad and it’s hot as hell.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:10 pm to 777Tiger
quote:
on 12/14/19 at 11:25 am to Zip Monkey What’s the name of the breakfast/lunch place, Mrs something or other
Mrs. Wilkes.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:14 pm to fitz
I second Wilmington/Whitemarsh Island but property prices are high. If living outside of Savannah I would look into Pooler, Richmond Hill, Guyton or Rincon. In Savannah the Historic District or Ardlsley Park or nice but pricely. Georgetown area is decent and reasonably priced.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:15 pm to Zip Monkey
quote:
The water in Savannah is literally slimy feeling. When you shower no matter how long you rinse. It still feels like you're still slick with soap.
I’ve lived here six years and never experienced this or heard anyone say this.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:18 pm to fitz
Learn how to Shag and you’ll blend right in
Posted on 12/14/19 at 12:29 pm to fitz
Need more info. Working in main part of Savanah, out skirts, neighboring town? Kids? Hobbies?
1. Drive you route to work. Coming into savannah in the morning and leaving in afternoon is a pain. Coming from SC is a pain both times.
2. Schools are all over the place. Some public schools have excellent specialty classes, so ratings can be skewed.
3. Hunting, fresh water fishing - go west. Salt fishing - go east.
1. Drive you route to work. Coming into savannah in the morning and leaving in afternoon is a pain. Coming from SC is a pain both times.
2. Schools are all over the place. Some public schools have excellent specialty classes, so ratings can be skewed.
3. Hunting, fresh water fishing - go west. Salt fishing - go east.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:07 pm to BigDropper
quote:On the way.
Do you have kids?
Can you afford private school?
Yes. But we would prefer public school.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:09 pm to wt9
Office is in Midtown Savannah, I guess.
Kids on the way.
Love fishing.
Kids on the way.
Love fishing.
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