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re: Moulding cracking, splitting, doors not aligned w/frame, and tile separating from thinset

Posted on 1/20/18 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 1:21 pm to
Bad foundation
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 1:29 pm to
No
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8770 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:21 pm to
My house is doing the exact same thing. Over half the tiles in the kitchen have let loose.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:27 pm to
Have you taken one up to check it out yet? The back of my tiles were clean and the thin set on the slab looked perfect, they just became unbounded

You hear a quiet crunching sound when you walk on them?
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8770 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:29 pm to
Yes to the crunching. No I haven’t taken any up yet bc it’s literally in the middle of my breakfast area and have 2 young kids who play in the area usually. But I was sitting in my living room Friday and could hear loud “popping” noises and more let loose. Prolly 2-3 more tiles.
Posted by Krazy Kajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2007
54 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:30 pm to
I had the same problem.
Was your floor cleaned of paint before tiling?
The painters had painted the door frames with a spayer and left a thick layer of paint on the floor. The thin set peeled up from the paint along the door frames and went out from there.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8770 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:32 pm to
None of my grout is cracked tho.

We were planning to move soon and hoped to not have to mess with much but looks like we will have to get the flooring re Laid.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68560 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:40 pm to
Yep
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62450 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:50 pm to
The thinset is letting go of the tile cleanly

The thinset is staying bonded to the slab perfectly
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62450 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:51 pm to
Just shows you either don’t understand what we are talking about or didn’t read the thread
Posted by TurkeysAndBees
Member since Jan 2017
651 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Sure you're not experiencing foundation issues?


I've owned / renovated about two dozen older homes and this is VERY common in Louisiana.... both slab and pier and beam foundations... although pier and beam is much easier to fix... Soil settles over the years, foundation shifts with it...not a big deal and rarely needs foundation repair. You'll have to re-adjust a few things but no cause for alarm. Buying a new house is not always the solution. New houses settle as well and every now and then you'll see exactly what you describe. Many times large trees are cleared to make room and root systems rot over the years making the soil unstable. What you are seeing is NOT a reflection of the quality of a home....neither inexpensive or hi-dollar homes are immune. It's simply a fact of life in Louisiana and just not as big a deal as it may sound.

Now if you see inches you may have to do some foundation repair. I've seen pier and beam homes re-leveled with a simple auto floor jack and shims. A slab will take more effort and more expensive but still very simple solution. For what you describe, if you simply make repairs and adjustments it's likely the house has settled and should be stable quite a while. As I write I just recall a house slab poured too close to a massive water oak tree. The tree had to be removed and excavated before it could be made stable.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62450 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:57 pm to
It’s not a foundation issue for me and I’m grateful for that
Posted by TurkeysAndBees
Member since Jan 2017
651 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Bad foundation


The replies addressing tile are fine but this is not likely due to poor preparation before laying tiles. The fact his doors are no longer square with frames is a foundation issue. As I said before I've renovated over twenty old homes as well as a few newer and this is very common. It is not an indicator that the foundation was "bad" or something was done wrong. There are quite a few reasons Louisiana soil shifts / settles ranging from our water table to old root systems rotting well below the surface. It is usually not a cause for alarm. Once it initially settles it will remain stable in most cases. I've dealt with houses built from 1920's to 1990's and it's very common in all. He'll need to trim the doors to fit frames, fill cracks in walls/ceiling and caulk trim gaps. Very likely it will remain stable for decades. If it is brick, check for gaps in the mortar. As long as you don't find anything you can fit your thumb into, you may not need worry about making foundation repair... which by the way is quicker and easier than most would think. Pier and beam homes are a fairly simple process to level the house. If the house is within 8 feet or so from a very large oak or other tree, you probably won't get it stable without excavating the tree. Most others are causes ranging from our Louisiana soil to old rotting root systems that weren't visible. These are usually more towards cosmetic repair in nature... rather than a significant structural issue.

As an investor, I actually used to love to buy homes that were still showing problems from cracked slabs and settling issues. If the owner had not addressed cosmetic issues, the largest part of home buyers were scared to death and prices reflected drastically. I still have two rentals in desirable south B.R. neighborhoods with foundations that had settled. I made most of the cosmetic repairs, they've been stable since, and the areas that originally show cracks in brick mortar have not budged in well over 20 years... and I doubt they ever will. They just needed to settle. They are great homes with great return, bought for a song. It's just not a big deal in 9/10 homes with foundation settling and no cause for alarm...just take care of cosmetics before you show to sell.
Posted by RustyTiger
Daytona Beach, FL
Member since Jul 2005
958 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 3:36 pm to
You are living on a sink hole!
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68560 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 3:50 pm to
It’s your foundation, shite for brains.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62450 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 4:20 pm to
You must be retarded
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11509 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:06 pm to
Hell man, just get a flooring/tile contractor AND a foundation expert to evaluate your problems and stop dicking around here ???????
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62450 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:10 pm to
1. I don’t have a foundation issue

2. Contractor already fixed parts of the floor


The thread is about how others humidify their homes during winter
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Sounds like you had some slight heaving baw.


This. When the ground freezes it causes chaos on foundations not built for it.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

It’s not a foundation issue for me and I’m grateful for that


If your doors arent square, not closing all the way and door molding is moving its a good possibility, but not a certainty that its a foundation issue.

Put a level to your door, then to your slab. If they arent plumb, but were prior to the cold weather I highly suggest you get a foundation guy to look at it.
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