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re: Most Americans don't know the answer to this question

Posted on 4/18/16 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Scruffy is right. The question implies an answer for all moons in the universe. There are cases where given bodies gravitational pulls might result in any of the answers A-C (think microgravity, to conceptualize).


Posted by horndog
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:07 am to
Those bodies actually exert a force on one another, but he moon is much larger and exerts more, so I say C.

The astronauts that walked the moon didn't float off did they?
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:08 am to
frick scruffy, btw.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:11 am to
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Engineers responses


Well their responses were understandable. There was no spreadsheet formula to give them the answer
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:12 am to
At the time of the pen drop, was the Moon a Good Moon or a Bad Moon? If it was a Bad Moon, was it rising?
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:13 am to
frick horndog, btw.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:36 am to
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Gravity is the result of mass and distance.


This is true. Gravity is not an attractive force between masses, but is an external pressure force produced by the spacetime curvature. See Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:44 am to
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This is true. Gravity is not an attractive force between masses, but is an external pressure force produced by the spacetime curvature. See Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.

well all of it is just a theory so you can just presume Einstein is correct.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:45 am to
Click here for this weird trick to keep from losing your pen.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:49 am to
C, the moon has enough gravity for the pen to fall toward it. All objects of its size/density do.
Posted by KingBeingking
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:22 am to
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well all of it is just a theory so you can just presume Einstein is correct


It's a theory that is now backed up by the observing and measuring of gravitational waves emitted from a back hole.

A scientific breakthrough by LSU scientists
Posted by Bagger Joe
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:49 am to
Back in the very early days of the American space program, NASA found that the normal ball point pens used on Earth did not write in space because the ink was gravity fed to the point. They spent thousands of dollars developing a pen that the astronauts could use that would write in zero gravity.

The Russians used pencils.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Back in the very early days of the American space program, NASA found that the normal ball point pens used on Earth did not write in space because the ink was gravity fed to the point. They spent thousands of dollars developing a pen that the astronauts could use that would write in zero gravity.

The Russians used pencils.


NASA did not use a pencil because they were concerned about the possibility of graphite particles from the pencil lead, which are electrically conductive, floating away in zero G and getting into the equipment.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:16 pm to
As long as we aren't changing the definitions of moon (lots of posters trying to do that in this thread) and pen, the answer will always be C.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:22 pm to
Most Americans don't know the name of Earth's moon!


Much less physics related to it.
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:23 pm to
The question reads a moon, not the moon. So while the answer is still C, here's a little perspective. On Mars' moon Deimos (which is only 7 miles in diameter) the acceleration due to gravity is 0.003m/s^2 (compared to 1.662m/s^2 for our moon). If you dropped a pen from 3ft on the surface of Deimos it would take between 25 and 30 seconds to fall to the surface, which wouldn't appear like a conventional "fall".
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:25 pm to
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If you dropped a pen from 3ft on the surface of Deimos it would take between 25 and 30 seconds to fall to the surface, which wouldn't appear like a conventional "fall".



are we talking like a regular Bic, or a fountain pen?
Posted by CSATiger
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:26 pm to

quote:

C. The Moon's gravity is 1/6th G


quote:

you sure?


very close to it, it is actually 16.6%, which times 6 is 99.6
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:27 pm to
It wouldn't matter (no pun intended)
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

The question reads a moon, not the moon. So while the answer is still C, here's a little perspective. On Mars' moon Deimos (which is only 7 miles in diameter) the acceleration due to gravity is 0.003m/s^2 (compared to 1.662m/s^2 for our moon). If you dropped a pen from 3ft on the surface of Deimos it would take between 25 and 30 seconds to fall to the surface, which wouldn't appear like a conventional "fall".



Correct, A moon has to have enough mass to stay in orbit around a planet or other celestial body so it will have at least some gravity. Could take a century for the pen to travel the 3 feet to the surface of a given moon but it's going to get there eventually.
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