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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:17 pm to
If not it may be an address you dont use anymore. Mine is greenhead2287@gmail
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:21 pm to
I'll send you an email.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:25 pm to
Appreciate it
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:29 pm to
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The prophet has spoken We will now see droughts of historical level


Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:44 pm to
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All of the chemical plants long the river that depend on it for importing/exporting product would be fricked


Then how about they pitch in a little extra to solving the problem rather than taxing people all over the country. The plants stand to lose the most financially if the river has its way.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:46 pm to
You obviously have never seen how they plan long term.


They are willing to risk the river shift and deal with that problem when it happens.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35369 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:04 pm to
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To be fair... St Mary parish could be in a world of shite... I just heard ANOTHER foot of rain is gonna come down along the northerner Miss River... It has to go somewhere... Opening the spillway will just add more problems for them down the road... We are talking historic levels.........



Forwarded to St Mary Consolidated government. They shut down their sandbagging operations
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:08 pm to
I can promise you woukd see mobilization of major corporations in epic proportions if this happened.

Would be hoover dam level gettinf shite done
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:11 pm to
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can promise you woukd see mobilization of major corporations in epic proportions if this happened.

Would be hoover dam level gettinf shite done


This is one of those situations where, if it happened, I'd put my money on mother nature winning out.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:13 pm to
Update from the area state rep Amedee. From tgrbaitn08's link.

quote:

FLOOD UPDATE:
Finally some official information!

At 2:00 this afternoon I attended a briefing with the Governor, US Army Corps of Engineers, GOHSEP, CPRA, agency heads and parish officials. USACE Commander Col. Michael Clancy reported the following:

• The decision on whether to open Morganza has not been made yet. It rests with USACE Major General Kaiser. We anticipate a decision on Tuesday, May 28.

• We can’t let water flow over the Morganza structure or else we lose the ability to open it if needed and it could lead to structural damage of the gate.

• If needed, a slow opening will start on June 2. This will not be a full opening. It will include no more than 10 bays. A slow opening keeps the structure safe and also protects wildlife. Openings in 1973 and 2011 taught us that we need a slow opening to give wildlife time to react and escape.

• The current flood rates projected are not bad. The flow rate should be minimal (60k cfs). Water should rise about a half foot at Morgan City above whatever level you have at the time.

• The Corps will post impact maps tomorrow (May 24) showing what’s expected.

• If it is necessary to sink a barge in Bayou Chene, the Corps is prepared to help as in the past.

• Crops will be affected by water.

• The state issued an emergency declaration on Feb. 27 and will renew as necessary.

CPRA head Chip Kline reported:
• The need to sink a barge in Bayou Chene will be decided on Monday, May 27.
• If barge placement is needed, CPRA has agreed to fully fund the operation and levee districts have been instructed to begin procurement procedures.
• Expected crest at Morgan City is 9 ft around June 26 which will be the 3rd highest flood event in recent history.
• Flow will be only 1/3 of what it was when Morganza was opened before but we have standing water already.

There was discussion about lower St. Martin needing a 1/2 mile of barrier to handle water on the road in Stephensville. Plans are underway to install a water blocking device that will not take up the lanes of the roadway and sufficient signage and lighting so that traffic will be able to safely pass.

This is all of the official information I have at this time. I returned to the House Chamber to continue work while watching the Governor's press conference online, but the link I was given (and tried to share here) did not work.

I hope to participate in the next briefing scheduled for 10am Friday and I will share any updates afterwards.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35369 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:14 pm to
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I can promise you woukd see mobilization of major corporations in epic proportions if this happened.

Would be hoover dam level gettinf shite done




Doubt it. There’s not that much shite in the way
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:18 pm to
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slackster


Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:21 pm to
I think people really overestimate the value of the area.

Especially weighed against what can be done about it.
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:27 pm to
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hen the river level went down in late summer we’d block the new path and send it back to NOLA. And we would not lose NOLA’s drinking water, because the river would split. It would not all go to the Atchafalaya.


That is not correct, according to the experts who have studied this for decades. The river will silt up just downstream of the breach and cease to flow down to BR and NOLA all together. There is so much sediment in the river it would deposit an entire new bank on that bend as it turns west to go down the Atchafalaya.

You could not stop the flow of the river from Atchafalaya at that point. Go to Baton Rouge and look at he river when it is "low" and explain how you stop that from flowing. It is not possible. It is still gigantic and far too much water and force for us to stop it flowing and force back to the old course.

Finally, when the river stops flowing to NOLA, the riverbed at NOLA is below sea level and will increase in sanity, as will the groundwater around the area south east of BR. The river stays fresh at NOLA currently because of the flow of water. Without that flow, salt water intrusion will travel far upstream, especially since the bed is well below sea level even north of NOLA.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:35 pm to
I think people are missing that there will be a "new" channel cut at ORCS.


The river in New Orleans already gets salt water intrusion during hurricanes and storm surges.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 9:40 pm to
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WizardSleeve


Well said sir.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:00 pm to
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I think people really overestimate the value of the area.

Especially weighed against what can be done about it.



I've read something about basically rerouting the river directly to the GOM past New Orleans, but I can't seem to find it. I know it is ultimately an issue of the river trying to find the shortest and steepest route to the ocean, so I'm not sure how much that could truly cut off.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12817 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:00 pm to
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That’s an absurd scenario. When the river level went down in late summer we’d block the new path and send it back to NOLA. And we would not lose NOLA’s drinking water, because the river would split. It would not all go to the Atchafalaya


Saltwater intrusion is already a problem for Nola drinking water. The lack of water flow down miss river will be pronounced. They’ll have problems. Plants can live with a little salt in colling water system until they change it out.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:10 pm to
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Saltwater intrusion is already a problem for Nola drinking water


No it’s not. Did you just make that up?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:11 pm to
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