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re: M.I.P. In Baton Rouge

Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by 44Bogger
Beauregard
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:02 pm to
I got one in tigerland the night before Fat Tuesday in 2000 when I was in BR visiting a HS friend. Was crossing a parking lot with a 16oz in hand. Cop pulled up and gave me a ticket while his partner poured out about 14oz of Old Milwaukee. They even used some test kit to see if it was indeed alcohol. Last thing they did was hand me back the can to throw away.
My dad told me to call our local DA. I did and he told me to come in. He had gone to LSU. He first bitched me out saying if this had been a DUI he would not be helping at all. Then proceeded to tell me when he was at LSU he made it his goal to drink all the PBR and Budweiser that BR had to offer.
Couple days later I got a cc copy of a letter he mailed to EBR DA. Letter stated I had a clean record and he considered the MIP rude. ...or something similar.
No-shite a week or so later I got a letter from EBR office that said the charges had been dropped and I was welcome back in Baton Rouge anytime.

Yes I know the law is the law but none of us are perfect. And when I am caught breaking the law I gonna do my best to try to get out of it.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

they are permanent, they may have some access limited, but they are permanent

Explain.

Certain governmental agencies still have access, but the general public does not and the individual does not have to disclose the arrest.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Got one during football season. Plead article 894 in court (or whatever it's called). Payed $50 and court cost. Six month unsupervised probation. Goes off my record after a hearing at the end of the six months.
Whatever you do, don't take that pre trial bull crap. Straight money grab.


Ugh. People. No. Do not burn your 894 for an MIP! Save that for your Dee Dub or for when you get busted for transporting a pound of pot into Bossier City.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Certain governmental agencies still have access, but the general public does not and the individual does not have to disclose the arrest.

just saying that an arrest record is a permanent one, regardless of the outcome, and all convictions are permanently on record regardless of expungement or having the record "sealed," it just limits the access to the arrest or conviction, but in today's technology, it just takes a little more digging
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:14 pm to
Can you do more to explain than just repeating that it's permanent?

ETA: When's the last time you dealt with expungements?
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:18 pm to
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Can you do more to explain than just repeating that it's permanent?

not being a smartass, but what I mean is there will always be a record for an arrest or conviction, it will never be erased, if a deal is made for expungement or for a sealed record, it just means that it may not show up on a perfunctory search, but an in depth search will detect it
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:21 pm to
What would you search for to find records of MIPs?
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 4:21 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:22 pm to
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What would you search for to find records of MIPs?



isn't an MIP like a ticket? not an arrest?
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 4:34 pm to
It's a criminal citation. The judge can sentence you to 6 months in jail. It goes on your arrest record.

What would you search to find a record of that?

ETA: We can expand the discussion if you want to your typical "arrests" (i.e., placed in handcuffs). If the newspaper doesn't report on the arrest, what would you search to find a record of it?
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:01 pm to
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what would you search to find a record of it?

most attorneys can look that up, I do some work with the EAP at my place of employment and they've got a pretty invasive search program that just about reveals if you ever got detention in school, also most cops have that capability in their computer
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:14 pm to
And they wouldn't hire you because you got an MIP when you were 18 and in college?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

And they wouldn't hire you because you got an MIP when you were 18 and in college?



?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:19 pm to
To be a pilot

Also, this is 100% not true
quote:

You can expunge arrest records
What you've been arrested for will show up for the rest of your life. The people searching just have to look in the right place. I know this for a fact. I don't have my last record check on me, but every single thing shows up....even stuff I wasn't charged for, stuff that got dropped, no bill stuff, etc. Everything is on there (except traffic tickets)

It's a fantastic idea to waste an 894 on a stupid MIP
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 5:25 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:30 pm to
Not if it has been expunged. Read the statute.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

You can expunge arrest records.
quote:

100% not true
Start here and work your way down.

Stuff you specifically expunged showed up in your criminal history?
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9500 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:51 pm to
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Money grab


Ding , ding, ding, we have a winner!
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:01 pm to
Got mine fixed baw. Depends who you know
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:03 pm to
Yes. I told you, I know this for a fact. Stuff I wasn't ever charged for shows up also. Everything shows up if you look in the right place

I have done a side-by-side comparison of an "extensive" one that a company pays for and my actual record. The paid for one was clean. The other, not so much

Eta: I believe it is illegal to check someone's actual criminal record, but none of that stuff ever leaves
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9500 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:05 pm to
We had an associate who had a DWI in law school, after Bar was on super secret probation and not allowed to drink. Got piss tested and suspended for about 6 months. Really killed his billable hours.

Anyhow, if not worried about future schooling/profession, just pay the ticket. Otherwise, diversion is the way to go.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:06 pm to
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Yes.
Who handled your expungement?
quote:

Stuff I wasn't ever charged for shows up also.
Well that's understandable. It's an arrest record, not a conviction or officially billed record. It's screwed up but that's our system.
quote:

Everything shows up if you look in the right place
What's the right place?

ETA: Just saw your edit. You are one of the people that get to see your actual record. You, some governmental agencies and school boards if they get permission.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 6:08 pm
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