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re: Metairie Double Shooting, Father/Son Shot (Update p 31, Suspect Guilty)
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:22 pm to H.M. Murdock
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:22 pm to H.M. Murdock
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They go into white neighborhoods to do this and have said as much in previous cases.
Thugs go into more affluent neighborhoods and check for unlocked cars and houses to rob.
Link me an article that says "black thugs go into white neighborhoods to kill innocent white people because they're white"
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Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:25 pm to H.M. Murdock
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by H.M. Murdock
They go into white neighborhoods to do this and have said as much in previous cases.
Do you think affluent black neighborhoods are immune from this problem? Trust me this kind of stuff happens there as well. These people were not targeted bc of their color. Just like the evidence proved Michael Brown was not targeted bc of his color.
If you are asking if the media and the JJ/Sharptons on the world would put a different spin on it if racial roles were replaced in this shooting then yes It would prob be viewed as a hat crime. Doesn't mean that it actually was.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:27 pm to Roarforthetigers
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Go tell that to the Pence widow and her daughter who will have to attend a closed casket double funeral.
Classic ignorant deflection technique. I'm not going to delve into your bullshite attempt to make me look like an uncaring insensitive lunatic. A woman's family is dead. That is a tragedy. To use her and her family as a way to steam roll your arguments around is pretty fricked up.
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I've heard liberals like you
I'm not a liberal. very very far from it.
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you and those liberals are constantly wanting every hard working family to stop and say, " we are to blame"
You want to bash people and get upset, go ahead. That's your right. But it isn't going to help anything. As i said, forcing people into political labels and boxes based on your own projected preconceived notions and bashing certain groups is a very easy and convenient way to never address an issue.
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Nola has brand new schools and out of state idealistic teachers who have come here solely to reverse the school situation that existed before Katrina.
In certain limited areas, yes. Although those schools have their own problems and a high turn around rate. And i have and continue to donate both my own time and money to lower income neighborhood schools. I;m hopeful that this is the start of some true change.
It will take generations to turn this society around though. The problems dont get fixed overnight.
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You are out of touch with reality.
No. I'm not.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:30 pm to Breesus
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Nola has brand new schools and out of state idealistic teachers who have come here solely to reverse the school situation that existed before Katrina.
It has more 22 year olds who have no idea what to do with their liberal arts degree but they want to live somewhere "cool" with a lot of other young people, so they decide to do a shitty job teaching in New Orleans for two years before moving away to start a new career in a different field.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:33 pm to Breesus
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Yes. They do. You think white people don't commit violent crime?
Just because there may be a larger portion of poverty stricken uneducated black youth committing crimes in the south does not change what I said
This post was edited on 4/26 at 2:42 pm
Not on the same level. I'm not really sure what you're arguing about in this thread.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:36 pm to nolanola
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:38 pm to Breesus
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my point is that they were killing everyone in that house
And the point iam making is they didn't go down the street in which they lived to steal a few credit cards but they probably traveled a great distance to get to a neighborhood which they or their friends have targeted before with success . They could have saved a lot of gas and probably not gotten caught if they would have targeted their own race so why did they decide to do what they did? That is the question I want to know and you don't want answered cause it may destroy your illusionary liberal /socialistic world which says blacks are persecuted by the police and are held down by the white dominated socio-economic system.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:43 pm to chalmetteowl
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this guy's life is done basically at 18. he's going to Angola and he will never leave
Don't be so sure. With the way the Supreme Court has expanded the meaning of the 8th Amendment, don't be surprised if at some point in the future a life sentence for a crime committed under the age of 18 is considered cruel and unusual.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:43 pm to Roarforthetigers
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They could have saved a lot of gas and probably not gotten caught if they would have targeted their own race so why did they decide to do what they did?
Because they weren't targeting race. They were targeting affluence. Why do you not understand that?
If the thugs' next door neighbor was white and the family in the house they went into was black nothing in this situation would've changed because it was not motivated by a hatred of race, but by a want to steal from those wealthier than they.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:46 pm to Roarforthetigers
Dude I am as conservative as they come. These criminals troll all kinds of areas looking for easy targets. Black affluent areas have the same issue if not at a higher rate.
You want to make this a black vs white issue. I am saying its a good vs bad people issue.
You want to make this a black vs white issue. I am saying its a good vs bad people issue.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:47 pm to Tigerdew
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Not on the same level
what does this mean?
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I'm not really sure what you're arguing about in this thread.
I'm arguing that this double murder/ robbery was not racially motivated and race shouldn't enter these discussions because it serves no purpose other than to distort and distract from a conversation about the real issues plaguing our society.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:47 pm to Roarforthetigers
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They could have saved a lot of gas and probably not gotten caught if they would have targeted their own race so why did they decide to do what they did?
People usually have more money in affluent neighborhoods.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:51 pm to LordSaintly
Don't know if this was answered but where did the shotgun come from? Doesn't seem like a 17 year old thug's usual weapon of choice...
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:52 pm to Breesus
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I'm arguing that this double murder/ robbery was not racially motivated and race shouldn't enter these discussions
The argument many of us are trying to make here is not that the Pence's were targeted because they were white, but that black people are much more inclined to commit this type of violent and heinous crime than white people.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:53 pm to Breesus
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If the thugs' next door neighbor was white and the family in the house they went into was black nothing in this situation would've changed because it was not motivated by a hatred of race, but by a want to steal from those wealthier than they.
Well, you have no idea what happened in this situation. The killer may very well be the most racist douche bag on the planet. In fact, black folks are some of the most collectively racist people on the planet.
My issue is the with the young black men today being so fricking violent. You can be pissed off all you want that other people have nice shite and you don't. That doesn't mean you have to run around spraying families down in their home.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:54 pm to Breesus
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I'm arguing that this double murder/ robbery was not racially motivated and race shouldn't enter these discussions because it serves no purpose other than to distort and distract from a conversation about the real issues plaguing our society.
What's the real issues?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 3:59 pm to supadave3
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black people are much more inclined to commit this type of violent and heinous crime than white people.
if you don't see how this argument is insanely racist and counterproductive to any true advancement in society i don't know what to tell you.
I'm honestly amazed at the blatant ridiculousness of that statement.
You think someone who is born a black person has a higher propensity to commit violet crime because of his skin color?
That the genetics in the DNA of black people has violent crime built into it?
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/26/15 at 4:01 pm to Tigerdew
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What's the real issues?
Government handouts ans institutionalized poverty, apathetic politicians, failing education system, lack of general societal family values and morals, a lack of respect for life and dignity of your fellow man, a striving to make the community around you better, to name a few.
Not one of those is confined to or by a certain race.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 4:03 pm to Breesus
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That the genetics in the DNA of black people has violent crime built into it?
Some here would say yes.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 4:03 pm to Breesus
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Not one of those is confined to or by a certain race.
In new orleans, it kind of is...
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