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re: Mark Wahlberg says faith is ‘not popular in my industry,’ but he won’t deny his

Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:17 pm to
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Humans did not create death, disease, pain, predation, etc. Those things were already here.

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we have these things because people were unfaithful to God (Adam & Eve)

No.

Death and suffering have existed for much longer than mankind has been around. We didn’t create it through sin because countless species died (even went extinct) for millions of years before we got here.

Christian theology states that we suffer and die because we transgressed against God and live in a fallen world. In other words, we created our own circumstances. But that’s not true. Death was waiting for us just like it has for every other species.

The world also wasn’t flooded 4,000 years ago, and I tend to doubt some people lived to be pushing 1,000 years old.

The Bible is nonsense. As time marches on and fewer people are brainwashed into believing it without question as impressionable children, Christianity will fade into irrelevance just like many other religions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:22 pm to
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we have these things because people were unfaithful to God (Adam & Eve)


I've always believed the earth was corrupt from the beginning. The idea of spirituality being you're overcoming the limitations of this material world.

The duality of man is our biggest barrier. We're struggling to find balance and overcome the death and pain of the world.

Mankind tries to overcome the world through existentialism and materialism, which is futile.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:42 pm to
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For a Hollywood actor, he seems like a pretty good guy.

Him and his brother both
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5691 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:59 pm to
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I've always believed the earth was corrupt from the beginning.

This is not what the Bible says.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:29 pm to
I guess he's generated enough wealth for it to not matter that his career is now termed.


Good for him.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:30 pm to
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blinding that Vietnamese man


That man already rebutted this - his vision was already damaged before the attack and was not worsened by the attack.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:33 pm to
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I've always believed the earth was corrupt from the beginning.

This is not what the Bible says.


the bible says a lot of things, including some to back that up.

I don't consider the bible to be 100% fact. I consider it truthfully stated yet flawed.


Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:42 pm to
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the bible says a lot of things, including some to back that up.

The central concept of Christianity is that Man was originally given everything God has to offer (essentially Heaven on Earth in the Garden of Eden) but lost it through sin. Jesus then came along later to preach and stand in place of Man and endure a punishment He didn’t deserve in order to restore Man’s relationship with God to its previous state.

If a child is born with a terrible birth defect, the Christian answer is that we live in a fallen world. It’s not God’s fault. It’s ultimately Adam’s fault for sinning. But if death, birth defects, ice ages, hurricanes, etc., were all in existence before we got here to make our lives difficult regardless of how righteous we might have been, then that’s simply not true.

Without Original Sin, the foundation of Christianity makes no sense. There’s nothing about Genesis that reads like the geological history of Earth as we know it today. We may not be able to expose what Jesus (or Muhammad or John Smith or Abraham or other religious figures) did or didn’t do hundreds to thousands of years ago - but where the Bible meets science, it’s wrong.

Life did not start in a garden 10,000 years ago with T-Rex as a vegan. All the world’s land animals did not congregate in the Middle East 4,000 years ago to board a wooden boat built by a man several hundred years old to save them from a flood that covered Mt. Everest.

That’s insane.

Some people will say these stories were parables or allegorically true. Well, they weren’t considered that until science began to mature and our understanding of the world grew exponentially. And if the miraculous stories of Adam and Noah (pretty major biblical figures) aren’t meant to be literally true, maybe the divinity of Jesus isn’t either.
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